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Farmers dogs on public footpath

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Cuppateeee · 02/02/2019 15:49

Just been on a lovely walk in the countryside, only to be spoiled by a shouty farmer. Need a different perspective on it otherwise it will just wind me up. Will include picture.

Walking with my dog on a lead through a field, staying on the public footpath when I see two border collies barking in the distance. I stay where I am to look for a farmer to check if they are aggressive or not, no one in sight, they are staying where they are but still barking and in the way of where I need to walk, so I went back and walked down the other side of the fence.

I get to the bottom and see the dogs have gone, also notice the gate was open so they could have got to me anyway, never mind I’m there now and go over the stile back onto the public footpath.

Only then I notice the dogs have come back, so again I check to see if I can see the farmer because whilst they weren’t growling they were barking which is intimidating enough.

At this point there is a fence between us so not a problem but I check to see where the public footpath leads and you’re supposed to join the farm track but their gate is open. The dogs are following me and my dog down the fence, still barking, so I decided to walk away from them not wanting to risk what would happen when we reach the open gate. I am at this point on the farmers field.

After a few steps a farmer comes running shouting for my attention, I stop and see what he wants. He said ‘the footpath doesn’t go along there, you’re damaging the crops’. So he was clearly watching me, and would have been able to see that I was uncomfortable with his dogs around.

There is snow on the field so I wasn’t sure what I was walking on but either way I said, sorry I appreciate that but your dogs were being aggressive towards me and my dog so I felt I had no choice.

He kept repeating that if I can’t stick to the path then I shouldn’t go on the walk, which in normal circumstances I totally agree with, but in this case I felt it best, to protect me and my dog.

He insists his dogs are not aggressive, they are with him at this point, still barking but I admit not growling or coming closer, just staying with him, but I said again that I was not to know this and didn’t want to risk anything happening to my dogs.

In the end I walked away because he clearly could not see my point of view.

So was IBU waking on his land or was he. And if he was is there anything I can do to stop if happening to someone else. Sorry for the long post, thanks for reading.

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nellieellie · 04/02/2019 16:20

Normally my sympathy would be with the farmer. People walking in crops annoys the hell out of me. But, here, thefarmer allowed his dogs to intimidate someone on a public footpath. Under the DDA, you commit an offence if your dog is dangerously out of control. Now, 2 dogs rushing up and barking, not being called back, and making someone fearful for their safety, there is almost a case here..... The farmer then fails to apologise and has a go at the OP for trying to get away from his threatening dogs. No, OP you were NBU. He sounds to me like someone who doesn’t want people using footpaths on his land.

Scrowy · 04/02/2019 16:28

marymarkle you said very occasionally beef bulls are not castrated

That's so far from any kind of truth that it's not even funny. Bulls aren't castrated. Beef bulls are not castrated. Dairy bulls are not castrated. A castrated bull is no longer able to fulfill its purpose as a bull. That's not me being patronising it's me correcting your complete and utter lack of understanding of what a bull is and what the purpose of a bull is.

I have no idea why your family has a picture of a castrated bull, but one picture of a castrated bull does not make castrated bulls a normal thing.

MyFootHurts · 04/02/2019 17:05

marymarkle your post of 09.35
I would avoid bulls. Bullocks and cows are fine. Bullocks are lovely and very curious. And no it is not about the colour of the bull, it is whether they have been castrated or not that is the issue. Because castrated bulls are much less aggressive, Yes in general beef bulls are castrated, but there are exceptions.

I don't even know where to start with this....

Bullocks and cows are fine.
Well, unless the cows have calves with them, in which case, they are potentially very dangerous.

And no it is not about the colour of the bull.
Well, it sort of is, as the colour often denotes the breed and it's the breed that makes it more or less dangerous. So dairy bulls are more aggressive than beef bulls ( and are different colours).

Because castrated bulls are much less aggressive, Yes in general beef bulls are castrated,
Well, the definition of a bull is that it has testicles, so by definition any bull had not been castrated. Most male beef calves are castrated as they are reared for meat - these are called Bullocks and are generally not aggressive, but can be quite threatening as they hurtle towards you to investigate.

I don't know of many farmers that castrate fully grown bulls. Why would you, they need to have testicles to do their job.

MyFootHurts · 04/02/2019 17:06

Bloody bold fail, hope you can work out what's a quote and which is the reply.

Washedallthepots · 04/02/2019 17:15

I was wondering why on earth you would castrate a bull unless he was firing blanks of course!

Belenus · 04/02/2019 17:49

Thank you, Myfoothurts and Scrowy. It's good to have some genuinely knowledgeable people around.

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