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smcbride · 31/01/2019 07:42

Warwick Police haven't prosecuted anyone for these vile rape threats and Warwick uni are now letting (some of?) the perpetrators back in to study at the same university alongside those they discussed threatening to rape.

Would you be happy sending your child here?

Warwick students suspended over rape threats allowed to return earlyly*_

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BelindasRedPlasticHandcuffs · 31/01/2019 10:41

Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words will never hurt you

Sticks and stones may break your bones, but and words will never hurt you shatter your self esteem and destroy your mental health, making you a shadow of the person you once were.

mytieisascarf · 31/01/2019 10:42

It always starts with a joke....

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Beerflavourednipples · 31/01/2019 10:43

I would have thought from a safeguarding point of view, the university has a duty of care towards the women specifically mentioned in the messages, and part of that would be ensuring that those women don't have to share lessons, courses, space with these guys? Maybe it would be different if specific names hadn't been mentioned?

MrsBrianWarner · 31/01/2019 10:43

Whereaboutery at its finest now.

We aren't discussing Bobbit.

This is a thread on rape threats.

MrsBrianWarner · 31/01/2019 10:43

Whataboutery

Even!

userschmoozer · 31/01/2019 10:43

''Sticks and stones may break your bones, but rape threats are coercive control''. FTFY.

Bluestitch · 31/01/2019 10:43

Are men and women to be treated equally, or not?

If a story ever comes to light about a group of women naming their male classmates or colleagues and threatening to torture them, mutilate their genitals, rape them in the street and discuss the shortcomings of the male child they had sex with, I guarantee my view would be exactly the same. Unlikely though, don't you think?

KittensAndCake · 31/01/2019 10:44

Ffs, complete over-reaction. NOTHING ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

You'd be happy for your DD to carry on living/studying near these little shits would you? Because nothing actually happened, it never will, right? They're nice boys really, just a bit of bantz innit 🙄😡

mytieisascarf · 31/01/2019 10:45

Sexual violence is a continuum and words contribute to the culture of rape and institutional misogyny that women have to tiptoe through their entire lives.

Spicilydone · 31/01/2019 10:45

And no I wouldn't find that joke by Sharon Osbourne funny. Just because a tv audience who are told to laugh, laugh, doesn't mean it's universally hilarious.

But then plenty of men think rape jokes are funny. And there have always been derogatory 'jokes' about women. No double standards.

Beerflavourednipples · 31/01/2019 10:47

Imagine if this was your son? Jesus. I would know that I had completely failed as a parent. I wonder what their parents reaction has been to all this?

It does make you think though, how many 'private groups' are there amongst young men out there, with a constant stream of shit like this?

User758172 · 31/01/2019 10:47

@SchadenfreudePersonified

You didn’t read my post earlier this morning.

I made the point that you could think of a few names to call me. So you’re happy to direct abuse at me simply because you disagree with my views, but condemn it when other people do it.

Yes - I'm sure you have, and that it was probably justified.

I was a child in a foreign school, I was 11 years old, and you think it was justified? I can’t write down here what I’ve been called. Every single racial and xenophobic slur you can think of, and rape and death threats to my face in class every day from teenage boys. Was that justified?

And how ironic that you feel that name-calling is acceptable, but don't seem to like it when you think something has been directed at you.

You can call me whatever you like. It’s a free country. You have the right to use whatever words you like. I’ve heard it all before anyway.

JacquesHammer · 31/01/2019 10:48

and rape and death threats to my face in class every day from teenage boys. Was that justified

That's life. Life is tough. You can't be cocooned...

Bluestitch · 31/01/2019 10:49

Stop merailing the thread MrsAriadne. The women involved here HAVE been adversely impacted. It has damaged their MH and they are frightened of these men returning to the university.

PlantsArePeopleToo · 31/01/2019 10:49

Hmm, call me cynical but I can't help but wonder how forgiving people would be if this was any other group of people they threatened. I have a feeling that if they were threatening transwomen for instance then people wouldn't be so quick to defend them and the university wouldn't be allowing them back.

But it's 'only' women they threatened so I guess that's okay Hmm

IJustWantToWearDungarees · 31/01/2019 10:49

I am a student at Warwick and I am so concerned and upset by this. I knew about the case last year but hadn't seen the actual comments these young men made. I am absolutely appalled that they are being allowed back and I just feel so sorry for the women they threatened. I feel repulsed and nervous about being in a room with these men so god knows how their victims feel. I'm writing to my tutor to express my concerns and to say that I think the decision to allow these men back is highly misogynistic.

Beerflavourednipples · 31/01/2019 10:51

I can’t write down here what I’ve been called. Every single racial and xenophobic slur you can think of, and rape and death threats to my face in class every day from teenage boys.

And you think that is 'just life'? That there is nothing can be done to change that? That people just need to 'toughen up'?

PlantsArePeopleToo · 31/01/2019 10:51

I bet if these men do go on to rape someone at university then the first thing people will ask is WTF someone didn't do something to stop them when they had already made threats previously...

User758172 · 31/01/2019 10:52

That's life. Life is tough. You can't be cocooned

What happened to supporting the victims of such abuse? Can’t you see the hypocrisy?

divadee · 31/01/2019 10:52

I too can't understand why the police aren't involved. If you call a MTF Trans a "he" they soon go bloody knocking on doors.

Whyyounoeatmypie · 31/01/2019 10:52

I went there and was sexually assaulted by another student (international so paying through the nose). They kept him on, so this doesn't surprise me a jot. Horrible, money-grabbing institution but I wouldn't be surprised it they were the only university to have done similar.

53rdWay · 31/01/2019 10:52

Yes, I find it hard to imagine that if they’d been Muslim students talking about how badly they want to blow up lecture theatres and mutilate specific, named students on their course, that they’d be allowed back in and excused as “Oh its just banter nothing actually happened, let’s not ruin their lives!”

Beerflavourednipples · 31/01/2019 10:54

Hmm, call me cynical but I can't help but wonder how forgiving people would be if this was any other group of people they threatened. I have a feeling that if they were threatening transwomen for instance then people wouldn't be so quick to defend them and the university wouldn't be allowing them back.

That did cross my mind as well because one of the men didn't make any misogynistic comments, but did write some racist stuff. I assume he has also been let back as well though? I wonder if it would have been different if women hadn't been the targets at all, but another group entirely. Interesting...

JacquesHammer · 31/01/2019 10:54

What happened to supporting the victims of such abuse? Can’t you see the hypocrisy?

I'm merely pointing out your opinion. You can't have it both ways - you either support victims or you say it's "tough".

Me? I think what happened to you was abhorrent. It has clearly damaged you in a most severe way. You were failed by people who should have been protecting you.

And so are the women at Warwick, imagine knowing you're being routinely failed merely to protect the feeling of the menz.