#shameonyouwarwick

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Warwick Police haven't prosecuted anyone for these vile rape threats and Warwick uni are now letting (some of?) the perpetrators back in to study at the same university alongside those they discussed threatening to rape.

Would you be happy sending your child here?

Warwick students suspended over rape threats allowed to return earlyly*_

@cname Enjoy

No, I'm not a parent and I'm not an apologist. I'm reading this thread and the post Warwick made and wondering exactly what would appease the Internet masses.

Who said anything about burning or flaying alive, cname? Expulsion would have been sufficient. Exeter managed it with a group of students who posted similarly abhorrent (but actually less graphic and targeted) stuff in a chat group.

I think it’s really good that those with admissions options of Warwick have made their points to the admissions office that this is an issue affecting university choices. That will be noted by the university.

So what is it then, only burning or flaying alive for these young men? No chance of any redemption at all, ever?

Don’t be facile. As far as I’m concerned they’ve waived their right to attend Warwick for sure. If they’re keen enough they can do their learning via distance learning.

To be honest I wouldn’t trust them around young women (and indeed children...) and safeguarding needs to take place.

On fuck off @cname. My DD is a rape victim of a supposedly 'nice, educated man'. It would appear within his profession rape jokes are just banter.

Yeah, we wouldn't want to educate ignorant people. It's only for the virtuous

They have already enjoyed privileged education at school, were on their 2nd year of university education, and yet this experience had not yet made enough of an impression on them to consider that threatening to rape and mutilate female students with straightening irons is a bad idea, if not a red flag to future violence. I’d hazard a guess that the majority of students in this country would be absolutely disgusted by those comments without being especially “virtuous”.

What would 'appease the internet masses'? How fucking quaint.

Shocked at some of the comments here.

Loving the one about the children who go to a very selective private school in london and how their parents have told Warwick today they won’t be going and will be spreading their views at their coffee mornings! Warwick do take students from poorer background too, I grew up on a blinking council estate and went there, good god 🙄

Also the comment to the person who commented about trying to be objective and that clearly if you haven’t been raped you can’t have an opinion on this matter.

The perpetrators have been thoroughly named and shamed. I wonder now if one of them goes and commits suicide how everyone will
Feel on the matter - maybe you’ll be pleased about that. I’m not sympathising with them but the hatred and vitriol being spewed it right now worries me.

cname I’m proud to be part of the “internet masses” as you call it - if it means speaking out on this horrible issue. Sorry if you think we should put up and shut up. I’ve got news for you - this is a forum for discussion

maybe you’ll be pleased about that

Do people actually think before writing comments of such utter stupidity?

I wonder now if one of them goes and commits suicide how everyone will Feel on the matter

Oh for christ's sake.

the hatred and vitriol being spewed it right now worries me

Tbh I’m more concerned about the hatred and vitriol spewed by the men in question.

So what is it then, only burning or flaying alive for these young men? No chance of any redemption at all, ever?

Come one. Surely you can see that people are objecting to their return because of safeguarding and protecting the well being of the victims, rather than wanting to see the perpetrators punished. They should anyway, but I guess now that their names and faces have been published, future employers will think twice about recruiting them.

The perpetrators have been thoroughly named and shamed. I wonder now if one of them goes and commits suicide how everyone will
Feel on the matter - maybe you’ll be pleased about that.

That's a very inappropriate comment. Threats of suicide are frequently used as a tool of manipulation by people wanting to get their own way.

And why no concern about the girls and their possible future actions given the distress they must be feeling?

Two things:

Do you they’d been allowed back so soon if the threats had been made to male members of staff?

And the more recent perpetrators' 'we'd do it again' comments.

Their lives are not ruined.They could have done the decent thing and just moved to another Uni.

Thats the part i dont understand.

Why not go elsewhere instead of trying to return to warwick? Makes no sense to me. Seems very short sighted.

There seem to be 2 active petitions, one was from 9 months ago but people are still signing it and the one posted by SinisterBumFacedCat which is the new one.

As for the "I won't let my child attend Warwick" posts LMAO. Do you really honestly think that other universities are different?

No, I believe there are stupid little man-boys like this at all Universities, the issue is how Warwick have dealt with it. So until they do, it is crossed off our list.

flobo - I think it is reasonable to take a steer from the young women who were victims of this behaviour. They have been treated extremely badly, not only by the men in question, but also by the university. When the chat was first reported to the university, they tried to brush it under the carpet, until one of the women went to the press. They were then forced to deal with it. Fast forward a few months and following the outcome of the appeal, the university didn’t bother to tell the victims that the men had had their suspensions reduced. The women actually found out about it on social media.

Frankly, the misogyny on campuses (and the toleration of it by universities) is out of control these days. If you don’t work in a university, and haven’t been in one since the 1990s, then you’d be shocked at what young women have to deal with. If this forces universities to look at their codes of conduct and disciplinary procedures more closely, I am quite untroubled by a few men who’ve had all the advantages that money and privilege can buy not being allowed to attend their preferred university.

It's hardly burning and flaying alive to say they should not return to Warwick University at all - fgs sake look at what they named their Chat Group. Do you really think reinstating them is in any way fair on the women they abused or any of the women studying at Warwick?

What would appease the internet masses as you put it cname is for Warwick University to not re-admit them, them returning should never have been an option. Warwick have handled this very badly and with complete disregard for their female student body.

So what is it then, only burning or flaying alive for these young men? No chance of any redemption at all, ever?

Everything online plus leaked documentation from the university suggests these males have no remorse and don't care what they've written and would do it again.

So no - they don't yet deserve redemption.

I'm very worried how some on this thread are being deliberately melodramatic and goofy - I'm not on about those who want the 'boys' expelled.

I do agree with a pp that calling them boys can sound like minimising but I'm calling them boys as their mental maturity does not match a man and I honestly don't think they deserve the title.

Look, people make mistakes. But like the old adage once is a mistake, twice is a choice. Mistakes are learnt by, but these people have not learnt as they have started a second chat. Plus the group creator apparently had previous when in school.

What gets me most is they named names. Rape jokes are abhorrent but with a generalisation no specific targets are set. By mentioning girls they know, they have crossed the line between crude, sexist and immature to threatening, arrogant and dangerous.

I wouldn't have them tarnished for life though I'd be wary as a potential employer. But I would have expelled them.

It's upsetting actually how blasé they are about these things. Like I said in my previous posts, trying to be edgy. It reminds me of a 10 year old saying 'I'll rape you' as they heard it on GTA/a TV show or something.

Good for them they don't know what it's like to be treated this way.

I know that at their age if I'd created a group chat and made comments like
'Gonna make up he raped me as I don't like him hahaha'
'He's so hot anyone got any roofies I can slip him? I'll ride him like a horse'
Etc I'd have expected expulsion and to be honest, questioned by the police.

I have had sexual comments passed around about me including photos/videos so I know the drill. But unfortunately, helping women is a box ticking, hand wave exercise.

Oh and the suicide thing is ridiculous.

1. what about all the suicides and attempted suicides by women who are raped, sexually harassed or had rumours spread about them.
2. If they did attempted suicide they should seek mental health services like others who try for a variety of reasons but that attempt should not be blamed on woman.
3. if they did kill themselves id be very sad because they wasted their life twice. Once, by being so heinous and second by not trying to turn things around.