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AIBU?

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To ask if I’m being precious about mean gifts

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ForInstance · 28/01/2019 19:19

To start with: very first world problem disclaimer. Happy for responses that say IABU, but not on the grounds of first-worldliness.

I have a very close friend, whom I consider to be my best friend. She was (the only) bridesmaid at my wedding, we have supported each other through a lot. Relevant to the below is that she doesn’t have any financial difficulties.

I recently had my first DC. We / he have received all sorts of lovely new baby presents from friends, colleagues, wider family, etc. This bff got him a large muslin (a very nice one) that I happen to know cost a tenner. Whilst I’d be delighted with that from another friend, I really think it’s on the mean side for a best friend’s first born.

BFF has form for this. For me and DH’s wedding she said she wanted to get us a dinner at a top restaurant in Tokyo (our honeymoon destination). She had been to this restaurant previously. Originally she said she would book it for us and arrange to pick up the bill. This then became: she would give us some yen in advance and tell us where the restaurant was. Then this became: we would pay and she would reimburse us. At her request, I kept the bill and gave it to her with lots of thanks when we returned. She never reimbursed me or mentioned it again. I felt too awkward to ask.

I don’t know what to feel about this. I really don’t want to be the kind of person that sets too much store by material gifts or monetary value, but I feel partly hurt (like this reflects a lack of value for our friendship) and partly just appalled by what I see as her bad manners. DH says I just need to accept her meanness as a character flaw like any other. I guess he’s right, and I’d never say anything to her, but I can’t help it affecting how I feel about her. AIBU?

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Ladyoftheloch · 28/01/2019 19:34

The restaurant bill bail was really shitty - she should never have done that, it’s really poor form and bad manners.

The muslin thing, I think YABU. It’s a nice gift, you should focus on that rather than the monetary value. The cost of the thing is worth much less than the fact that she thought of you and got something nice and useful she thought you would like.

Aprilshowersarecomingsoon · 28/01/2019 19:37

My skint friend bought lots of bits and a baby monitor and presented them all individually wrapped when I has ds.
She actually cried she was so emotional when she met him!! Very unlike her!!. Your mate sounds like all talk and a bit shit tbh!

ForInstance · 28/01/2019 19:37

Thanks LadyoftheLoch I’m sure you’re right. I’m perhaps letting the former thing cloud my judgment about the latter. It is a very nice gift it’a true Smile

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EssentialHummus · 28/01/2019 19:40

You’ll get lots of people saying that she’s secretly in debt or whatever but yes, I’d find it a bit shit too. Congratulations on your little one FlowersBrew.

brownbreadicecream · 28/01/2019 19:40

I think the massive muslins are great gifts tbh. I would never pay £10 on one for myself (well,I might knowing how useful they are now) but got some from a friend and they are great. Esp for feeding baby in the sun!

Something small but 'luxurious' (Or pricey for what it is) that you wouldn't buy for yourself is the epitome of a good present imo!

brownbreadicecream · 28/01/2019 19:41

Restaurant thing was awful though obv

ForInstance · 28/01/2019 19:42

EssentialHummus Thank you! I do hope she’s not secretly in debt. If she is and I haven’t picked up on it then it is defo me that’s the shitty friend. But I am 99.9% sure not.

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FrankieHeckisinTheMiddle · 28/01/2019 19:44

I’ve spent twice that on people I don’t know anything like as well as a best friend. She sounds tight and selfish, the Tokyo thing was disgraceful.

Loopytiles · 28/01/2019 19:44

She was VU on the Tokyo meal but is not U on the baby gift.

Some people just think costly gifts for newborns are pointless.

newnameforthis7 · 28/01/2019 19:46

Mixed views here. Your friend giving a muslin for your baby was nice, and YABU to slag it off as 'not enough.' A pal of mine gave £50 as a wedding gift to her nephew and his bride, (In September 2018,) and it got back to her that the bride had said it was 'fucking measly!' My pal said that's the last thing they will ever get from her.

Then again, your friend booking an expensive restaurant for you, and saying if you pay the bill she will reimburse you, (and then not doing it) was pretty poor. So YANBU about that.

BeanJen · 28/01/2019 19:47

The restaurant thing was shit. Especially as a bridesmaid. No real excuse for it.
I'm not sure about the muslin. Sometimes other people have very different gift mentalities though and this comes from how their families 'do' presents etc. For example my family go all out for Christmas and exchange gifts with all close family, DH's family are mega stingy and have stopped doing adult gifts all together because they can't be bothered. £10 for a best friend seems a little stingy to me but then if she thought it was really nice and didn't know that you would know how much it was...? It might just be the way she's programmed I'm afraid.

BeanJen · 28/01/2019 19:48

Just to add- the real test for me would be if she's the kind of friend who would be there for you when you need her. That's worth all the tea in China 😊👍🏻❤️

LanaorAna2 · 28/01/2019 19:50

What do you spend on her? And does she accept expensive presents from others?

Leeds2 · 28/01/2019 19:51

Do you buy each other gifts, say for Christmas and birthdays?

TheBluesAreStillBlue · 28/01/2019 19:53

I think the muslin is a lovely gift, I’ve often bought those for friends. Obviously the wedding present thing was a bit tight. BUT - and I’m just playing devils advocate here - did she maybe end up spending a lot on your wedding? I have been the only bridesmaid before, and it cost me loads due to eg extra costs on the hen night having to be picked up and no one else feeling responsible for them, buying extra bits for the wedding (make up etc), and just little things here and there. So is it possible this happened and you didn’t really realise? Which led to her backing out on her gift a bit?

PorkPatrol · 28/01/2019 19:55

Could she have genuinely forgotten about the restaurant money? It does seem like she was trying to back out of her offer before that though.
I agree the posh muslin sounds pretty nice.

Juells · 28/01/2019 20:04

Blimey - I gave a £100 Mothercare voucher for the first baby of a cousin's son, whom I'd met only twice. I'd have been embarrassed to give a present for £10.

hellojason · 28/01/2019 20:14

I'm sure this thread will just prove that we all have different senses of value and what's an appropriate gift. I think £20-40 fine in this situation, £100 excessive and £10 so-so but if the gift is suitable, useful, practical then just use it and appreciate it.

You'll have to forgive and forget the Tokyo fiasco I think!

Abra1de · 28/01/2019 20:16

Blimey - I gave a £100 Mothercare voucher for the first baby of a cousin's son, whom I'd met only twice. I'd have been embarrassed to give a present for £10.

In my family and among my friends, that would be seen as OTT.

Glitterblue · 28/01/2019 20:27

I'm the kind of person who would love to buy lots of gifts if I had the money, but with me being a SAHM just now and only the one wage coming in, we don't. Some months we struggle if there is a friend's birthday, and I always feel everyone else is more generous to us. I would absolutely love to be really generous but just can't at the moment. Appearances can be deceptive though. My best friend recently said she was pleased that we seemed to be in a better position financially. The truth of the matter is we really really aren't, I have a wealthy grandmother who loves to buy clothes for DC and she paid for us to go on holiday last year etc. She also helped towards doing some decorating. So things aren't always as they seem. I'm probably often that friend who seems to be giving mean presents but I give what I can afford. The restaurant thing wasn't very nice, however could her circumstances have changed or could she just be hoping each month that next month will be easier and she will be able to do it then? I could really see that happening to me.

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 28/01/2019 20:33

I gave a £100 Mothercare voucher for the first baby of a cousin's son, whom I'd met only twice well that's lovely if you wanted to but completely daft to expect all gifts to escalate in proportion to that

OP, stop thinking about your friend as tight. The wedding thing was a bit of a cock up but you must be fairly well off if you can afford a honeymoon in Tokyo (disclaimer assume you live in UK). Presumably you didn't need an expensive baby gift?

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 28/01/2019 20:36

Does your friend lead a busy life/stressful job etc?

I'd love to give thoughtful gifts to everyone for all occasions - always used to be able to - but 3 kids and self-employed - time poor and other things are a priority financially and effort wise.

Butteredghost · 28/01/2019 20:46

The restaurant thing was shit but I think YABU about the baby gift.

Personally I prefer friends not to go overboard with baby stuff. Because a) you always end up with to much baby stuff so the last thing you need is someone showing up with bags of things. And b) anything expensive like cot, baby monitor or pram is usually something you want to choose yourself. So a small, cheap but nice for what it is gift is perfect IMO.

Butteredghost · 28/01/2019 20:49

And pp I would have been really embarrassed to receive £100 from a relative I barely know, so more isn't always better.

lessthanBeau · 28/01/2019 20:57

My bil/sil bought my dd a bottle of shampoo and a bottle of baby bath and a soft toy when she was born, they'd previously bought their friend a full travel system for her baby, for dds 1st birthday she got a tenner in a blank card for 2nd she got a board book. Their own dd was born a couple of months after mine, I made sure I gave her thoughtful gifts and cards, I think it may have been a jealousy thing as now a days they give more typical value gifts/treats and the friend that got the travel system hasn't spoken to them for about 8 years. I always like to be the bigger person I'm not giving my lovely dn crap unthoughtful tat just because they didn't do the same for dd. gifts don't have to be expensive to be thoughtful, I'd rather dd had received a lovely happy 1st birthday card with no money than than a blank non occasion card (think it had some impressionist painting on the front) it showed me exactly what they thought about dd/us.

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