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To ask if I’m being precious about mean gifts

80 replies

ForInstance · 28/01/2019 19:19

To start with: very first world problem disclaimer. Happy for responses that say IABU, but not on the grounds of first-worldliness.

I have a very close friend, whom I consider to be my best friend. She was (the only) bridesmaid at my wedding, we have supported each other through a lot. Relevant to the below is that she doesn’t have any financial difficulties.

I recently had my first DC. We / he have received all sorts of lovely new baby presents from friends, colleagues, wider family, etc. This bff got him a large muslin (a very nice one) that I happen to know cost a tenner. Whilst I’d be delighted with that from another friend, I really think it’s on the mean side for a best friend’s first born.

BFF has form for this. For me and DH’s wedding she said she wanted to get us a dinner at a top restaurant in Tokyo (our honeymoon destination). She had been to this restaurant previously. Originally she said she would book it for us and arrange to pick up the bill. This then became: she would give us some yen in advance and tell us where the restaurant was. Then this became: we would pay and she would reimburse us. At her request, I kept the bill and gave it to her with lots of thanks when we returned. She never reimbursed me or mentioned it again. I felt too awkward to ask.

I don’t know what to feel about this. I really don’t want to be the kind of person that sets too much store by material gifts or monetary value, but I feel partly hurt (like this reflects a lack of value for our friendship) and partly just appalled by what I see as her bad manners. DH says I just need to accept her meanness as a character flaw like any other. I guess he’s right, and I’d never say anything to her, but I can’t help it affecting how I feel about her. AIBU?

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howonearthdoyoucopewith3 · 29/01/2019 10:57

I would be quite stressed about receiving a gift worth £100 unless it was from parents or siblings. I would worry it would set a precedent for people spending loads of money on gifts. I had a big birthday recently (first in my group) and I asked my best group of friends not to get me anything. I genuinely don't need any more stuff and also it then sets the ball rolling for us all to have to buy loads of stuff for each other's big birthdays. It's not that we don't have money as we are all comfortably off. We just don't need loads more stuff!

FrowningFlamingo · 29/01/2019 11:05

I'm due next week and I've found that the people who can least afford it have given me the highest priced gifts. I have no idea why and I'd much rather they didn't as obviously I'm very grateful and touched but I feel terrible accepting them. Obviously it would be more rude to refuse!
I don't think the value of the gift necesarily reflects the value the giver attributes to you.
The restaurant thing is crappy though.

Bluntness100 · 29/01/2019 11:11

How much did you spend on the meal in Tokyo? I'm wondering if it was way more than she expected and she felt you were the cheeky fucker.

The baby gift is fine and of course you're being unreasonable to suggest she shoild have spent more on you, that's very grabby.

So it's really just the meal, so basically how mich was the bill you presented her with?

SEsofty · 29/01/2019 11:13

10 is perfect for a new baby gift even for a very close friend that’s what I would do. And the big muslin shows that she actually thought about what would be useful as opposed to a pretty outfit.

The Tokyo meal seems really weird and as though somewhere communication wires were crossed

londonrach · 29/01/2019 11:18

Wow. £10 is about right for a babys gift. I dont think i ever spent more than that on a present but ive limited money. Its the thought that matters not the gift. Yabu re that

Re the restaurant thats strange. Did she forget

Chamomileteaplease · 29/01/2019 11:23

I am fascinated to hear why she is your friend? Is she nice in other ways?

Because the Tokyo thing is weird and so mean!

Fabaunt · 29/01/2019 11:23

You’re being unreasonable. It’s the thought that counts. She is under no obligation to spend a fortune on your child.

thecatsthecats · 29/01/2019 11:27

Does your friend have children herself?

I mean, I am COMPLETELY clueless about stuff for babies. I incline towards the practical, because I'm not into the 'fluff' around babies. I'm not 'smushy' about babies, and wouldn't bat an eyelid at the existence of a cousin's son's baby.

It completely baffles me as to what is wanted/needed for babies - even if I have a list of suggestions, my brain isn't going 'aww, how cute' etc. Future presents for my nephew will definitely be financial!

The Tokyo meal is completely separate, and disgraceful. YOU could easily have got into debt by spending money you were expecting to receive back!

RangeRider · 29/01/2019 11:45

Another one who would be embarrassed to receive £100 from a relative I barely knew...
This ^^ (And I'll admit to being guilty of it myself because I misjudge in an attempt to do the right thing.)
And I think OP you're wrong about the new baby present. If someone is focusing on the value of a gift then they don't deserve a gift at all. It should be about the sentiment not the £ value. She bought a nice gift, you should accept it as such. Different people spend different amounts - it doesn't make anyone right or wrong. And you certainly shouldn't judge.
As for the honeymoon meal - I wonder if a PP was right - she thought you'd spent too much and wasn't expecting it. If your thinking on present-spending is so different it's entirely possible that she was expecting a much lower bill and couldn't afford it or didn't pay because she thought you were taking the piss.

ForInstance · 29/01/2019 11:48

In case anyone missed the update, I have accepted that I was BU about the baby gift based on the majority views here. Thank you. However, I dispute that I am ‘grabby’ - that is a bit too harsh imo. It was also not my suggestion that she should have spent £100 - that figure was mentioned by a PP and I also think it is too much.

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ourkidmolly · 29/01/2019 11:50

You've provided 2 examples of her bring tight. The first is shocking, the second just mean. What's she like generally at splitting bills etc? Has she other mean traits? It would colour my friendship with her.

Bluntness100 · 29/01/2019 11:51

Op, how much was the restaurant bill you presented her with?

ourkidmolly · 29/01/2019 11:52

£10 on best friend's first baby is tight. End of. Unless of course there's all the usual boring caveats and you're sleeping in a car etc

ForInstance · 29/01/2019 11:55

Bluntness Afraid I don’t remember, but she selected the restaurant and had been there previously herself so could have judged. DH and I wouldn’t have gone all-out (more courses than normal, tons of booze) anyway, but were particularly mindful of not doing so as we knew it was her treat. I really can’t think it was that.

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Bluntness100 · 29/01/2019 11:56

You can't remember how much it was?

Ok...

Confusedbeetle · 29/01/2019 12:04

£10 is plenty to spend on a gift for a baby and it was a nice gift. The restaurant was a ridiculous promise that should never have been made. I would be mortified if someone spent £100

Notsurewhat1981 · 29/01/2019 12:04

She just sounds really tight , and that could be why she's not short! I have some well off friends and relatives who would probably buy similar and some who are struggling who would still go ott with gifts. If you're thinking it's real 'meaness' towards you then perhaps there are other deeper problems in your friendship?

ForInstance · 29/01/2019 12:05

Bluntness No. Why is that weird? It was more than a year ago and was in JP yen anyway so the (converted) figure in GBP hasn’t stuck in my mind. I can peruse my bank statements if you wish...

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Bluntness100 · 29/01/2019 12:10

Because most people would have a rough idea of how much it cost and how much they were " owed"

ForInstance · 29/01/2019 12:13

Ah, but despite my appearing ‘grabby’ I really haven’t been thinking of it all this time as ‘she still owes me that £80’ or whatever it was ... I’ve been thinking ‘why on earth did she never stump up for that meal? Have I offended her in some way? How could she have forgotten to follow through on a wedding gift?’

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MotherOfDragons90 · 29/01/2019 12:19

**£10 on best friend's first baby is tight. End of. Unless of course there's all the usual boring caveats and you're sleeping in a car etc

My BF also having a baby. She had a shower and we all put £10 towards a beautiful hamper with over £200 of gifts in. I wasn’t going to get her anything else.

Does that make me tight? Confused

SEsofty · 29/01/2019 12:51

Ten is not tight

That’s about what everyone spent on my baby gifts

LaurieMarlow · 29/01/2019 12:59

Spending £10 on a baby gift isn't tight.

However £10 sounds like an awful lot for one muslin. Was it particularly nice?

LaurieMarlow · 29/01/2019 12:59

The restaurant thing is shitty though.

Zippetydoodahzippetyay · 29/01/2019 13:15

YANBU.
For most friends, I would do something simple and useful such as the Muslin. However for my best friend, I spent months putting together a hamper filled with all sorts of things that would be useful (eg. Baby towel and bath oil, coffee cup with a lid, baby paracetamol, teething gel, reusable breast pads, hand cream, baby socks and mittens etc). Total cost about $130 Australian and each item was something useful that I thought others might not get or that she wouldn’t think of or that I found useful.

And the restaurant thing? No way would she have just forgotten. That is weird.