To not understand why Prince Harry’s child...

[WellingtonPark]

...won’t be given the title of prince or princess?

Apparently PH and MM’s child will be given a lord or lady title instead.

Why is that? Beatrice and Eugenia are princesses after all.

Or will the child be bumped up to prince/princess when the queen dies?

Herecomesthsun
Most of Wales don't like who is known as The Prince Of Wales and couldn't care less about any ceremony. The last true Prince of Wales was Llewelyn. It's awful to have some English person you don't really care about to be Prince of your own country who doesn't have a pinch of Welsh in them and who does sweet F all for us. Majority of True Welsh people hate who the Prince of Wales is.

couldn't care less about any ceremony.

There was controversy in Wales when Charles was invested back in 1969. It wasn't a popular ceremony among many in Wales at the time. My guess is that sentiment might even be stronger when the time comes for William to be PoW.

@rustybear I’ll have to look it up again, but I’m sure the point about Philip acting as regent if the Queen is incapable unless she had a child or grandchild who could (so covers if they are all incapacitated) is why the act doesn’t die until he does even though the chance of its usage is now tiny.

I think you are right about the Margaret thing. It seems very much that we being female, and potentially unsuitable, played a big part in that decision!

Ok, ExFury, I see what you mean, there are two provisions to the Act, one covers if the Queen had died before one of her children was of age, the other covers the incapacity, rather than the death of the Queen, and provides for DOE to be Regent if there is no child or grandchild who can be (the doomsday scenario)
In my post I should have made it clear that I was referring specifically to the death of the Sovereign, so only the first provision was relevant, and it is this that has lapsed, not the whole Act.

Crossed wires Rustybear! Easy done with the complications in acts like that!

Will be interesting to see how regency acts are organised when Charles is King, and William. I can’t see Camilla being given the same standing as Philip, for example in the fitness test. I think there will be a real distinction made in the “well he was royal” but actually what they’ll mean is “he was male”.

As others have pointed out, the provision for Philip as regent has lapsed. It was a special provision made specifically for the minority of his own children with the Queen. Under the law as it stands now, Harry would be regent for George. Of course, the law could be changed.

The title to the act of 1953 actually has the phrase "the Duke of Edinburgh shall in certain circumstances be Regent." Those circumstances no longer exist.

@Butterymuffin - ha ha! True, but then my eldest is in his 40s so they’re a young couple to me!

@Ladyandgent
'incidentally' ou are incorrect, Kate and Meghan do have Princess titles.hth.