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AIBU?

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To impose a cleaning rota on my adult children?

109 replies

SparkleSoiree · 28/01/2019 10:13

This is long, sorry.

At the end of my tether. All I seem to do is put on the dishwasher, clean the kitchen down, hoover the house through, sort and push through all the washing, empty bins around the house, sorting out the recycling, dusting, pick things up off the floor, put things back in kid's rooms, take dishes out of their room, trip over their shoes, trip over their clothes, pick up piles of takeaway cartons, clean the bathroom daily (which is always really mucky because of DS's job). Forget the fact I'm doing a degree, run a business and trying to improve my own physical wellbeing after a spate of ill health.

I am sick of it.

I have 3. Two adult children and one who's still junior school age. DS moved back in to our spare room a few months back after the breakdown of his marriage to get some breathing space financially. We don't charge him rent or bills. He pays for his own food and does his own cooking. However I usually have to clean up behind him or sort out his washing as it's just left everywhere. Every other weekend he has his daughter (granddaughter) visit for 2 nights - and I usually end up doing the bathing, bedtime routine and babysitting for her whilst he goes out for the evening. I get no lie-in on those weekends because she comes to me to make her brekkie, etc. This weekend I put my foot down and didn't - suddenly I don't love my granddaughter anymore, according to him. Not to mention the piles of toys around the house because we are short of storage space for them.

My DD is better, she does things in spurts but thinks once she's done a few tasks she doesn't need to do anything for the rest of the month and constantly reminds me of when she cleaned the last time.

My youngest is disabled and is making good progress with her life and independence skills, does the dishwasher 2 nights a week, works hard to keep to her personal welfare routine and generally makes no mess outside her bedroom.

Recently I said I was going to put up a cleaning rota because I was sick of living in a pigsty and needed more order back in the house. I was met with rebellion and offers to pay for a cleaner. I can afford a cleaner, but I want my kids to tidy up after themselves and I'm happy to tidy up after myself. I just feel they are really, really lazy and don't understand the importance of personal responsibility and being responsible for the mess they create in their lives, whether it's refuse or something else.

Hubby works away and even when he was home he was 50/50 with everything that needed doing in the house before DS came home. So this situation is alien to me and is driving me nuts! I'm just constantly moaning about the state of the house and it's met with 'it's your house' or 'your'e the mum in the house'.

AIBU to enforce this rota today and if they don't like it then they can find somewhere else to live? No matter how many hours a week I do it always feels dirty/unkempt with a never-ending view of mess from my kids, it's bad for my mental health and it just feels like they are taking me for granted, disrespecting me and don't understand the commitments I've got going on in my life that need my time and attention. Those commitments are suffering because of the time it takes to keep the house from falling into a rotten mess.

Or should I just suck it up as part of being a mother with kids at home?

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SparkleSoiree · 28/01/2019 12:24

ResistanceIsNecessary love the social media point!

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SparkleSoiree · 28/01/2019 12:24

Thanks everyone.

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flumpybear · 28/01/2019 12:27

Good luck, stop enabling them, don't back down, and good luck .. again! Wink

Otterseatpuffinsdontthey · 28/01/2019 12:28

May I ask what ages your son and eldest daughter are?

SparkleSoiree · 28/01/2019 12:28

They are 26 and 18.

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AnneLovesGilbert · 28/01/2019 12:35

Good job OP, you're doing the right thing.

JaceLancs · 28/01/2019 12:38

Yes all adult DC should share household tasks or outsource them and they need to pay towards cost
At a minimum they should do own washing and ironing clean own rooms change own beds etc and leave communal areas in an acceptable way

NoSquirrels · 28/01/2019 12:38

Brilliant. Well done, OP. Take no prisoners and listen to no moaning!

Senioritafamiglia · 28/01/2019 13:01

Best of luck op. Totally unacceptable.

Upset74 · 28/01/2019 13:16

Household chores should be shared between adults. I've got two adult children and one child. While chores are not always equally shared e.g. If one of us is at work late whoever gets first will cook dinner. I would have a talk with your children about what you would like help with.

Youseethethingis · 28/01/2019 13:22

It’s no mystery why your son is now divorced - what a dead weight Confused

CatnissEverdene · 28/01/2019 13:32

I have 2 adult DDs living at home, OP. With no end in sight.

I think I am also living your life. Except for the grandkids live up the road and are regularly dropped off here so mum and dad can get a lie in.

We also have a 14 week old puppy.

I'm tearing my hair out. Literally.

longtimelurkerhelen · 28/01/2019 13:38

@CatnissEverdene

See above, you know what to do.

allthgoodusernamesaretaken · 28/01/2019 13:43

You need your DH on board to support you in this

SparkleSoiree · 28/01/2019 13:43

I think we need to leave speculation as to my son's divorce out of this because the most horrible thing happened which was not his fault and if the genders were reversed I'm sure everyone would be saying LTB.

I get the frustration with his lack of involvement here though and I accept it.

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Charles11 · 28/01/2019 13:43

Catniss go draw up your rota too. This is no way to live and isn’t good for anyone involved.

SparkleSoiree · 28/01/2019 13:44

allgoodusernamesaretaken yes, I agree and he was CC'd in on the email. Heard back positively from him already - but silence elsewhere....

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mbosnz · 28/01/2019 13:49

Can I just make the point that the social media thing brings a whole host of outsiders wading in and putting in their two cents from their own perspective and bias, and also sometimes feeling very awkward about being made a party to what is basically a family squabble?

I had a friend do that to her daughter on facebook, about the exact same thing, and let's just say - it didn't go so well for ANYBODY!! Smile

Nice to hear you've had one positive response, initially, at least!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 28/01/2019 13:55

OOh! Good. Adults in accord should make it harder for the wannabe kids to continue their revolt!

Best of luck tonight!

SparkleSoiree · 28/01/2019 13:59

mbosnz noted Wink

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pineapplebryanbrown · 28/01/2019 14:02

I wouldn't bother with a rota because I couldn't stand having to police it. What I do is look for their strengths and make that job their permanent responsibility.

One of mine likes to cook and is good at it, he has to make everything. I don't cook at all, not even a sandwich.

The other is very tidy and quite likes hoovering, keeping everything tidy and hoovering when necessary is completely his responsibility and I don't pay any attention to it.

I do the laundry because I don't trust them not to fuck up my clothes and because I don't do any other housework I pay a cleaner for a couple of hours a week to do stuff we all hate like mopping and dusting and cleaning the kitchen and bathroom.

I used to try rotas but it was such an energy suck, I can;t bothered to direct adults.

With the parenting, that's bs, your son can get his arse out of bed and look after his own kid.

Grace212 · 28/01/2019 14:07

OP random query

you mention having to clear up takeaway cartons - bleugh, how hard it is to sort those? Anyway, apart from the grossness, I'm wondering, do they pay for their own takeaways? Because they should. That's another thing that they'd have to pay for if they moved out - which tbh your son in particular really should be doing.

SparkleSoiree · 28/01/2019 14:10

Grace212 he does usually pay for his own but there was a strange situation where I essentially got conned into paying for it the other night and it left me feeling very uncomfortable. I think that was the last straw really.

A takeaway can be expensive or cheap and I occasionally have them BUT it's the way it was done which has not sat well with me.

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PlainSpeakingStraightTalking · 28/01/2019 14:14

I was met with rebellion and offers to pay for a cleaner. I can afford a cleaner, but I want my kids to tidy up after themselves and I'm happy to tidy up after myself. I just feel they are really, really lazy and don't understand the importance of personal responsibility and being responsible for the mess they create in their lives, whether it's refuse or something else.

Do you mind me asking why you wont let them pay for a cleaner? Does it really matter ? I'm just not seeing the issue with that . There is X problem (mess), You want Y solution (Children to sort mess) but Z solution achieves the same solution (clean house). Whats wrong witha cleaner? You wont be paying for it.

SparkleSoiree · 28/01/2019 14:17

Plainspeakingstraighttalking I know it appears a no brainer but I really think they need to pull their weight as opposed to getting others to do it for them just because they can afford to pay someone. If they want a cleaner in their own home then they can do so but I believe it would just be making it too easy for them to keep making mess in my home knowing 'someone else will clear it up'.

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