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Neighbours dog has just attacked me and DD.

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katkat90 · 27/01/2019 18:39

Have had issues with them in the past

They are elderly, with two large breed dogs (think Great Danes?). They cannot control them. Honestly the amount of times I have seen them nearly pull them over in the street/simply pull out of their grasp and go bouncing off and jumping all over people is untrue.

Was walking back from the shop and saw them coming from a distance so I stepped to the side into another neighbours driveway and next thing I know- one of them had pulled out of its owners grasp and came bounding over and knocked DD (who is just about getting confident with her toddling) over.

It was over in seconds- by the time I put the break on the pram (was stood on a slopes drive so it would of ran off into the road) and went to grab DD she was already on the floor the dog barking at her- so I kicked it to get it away, and it bit my leg.

I was furious. Owner very embarrassed an apologetic but I’ve said enough is enough and I would be contacting the police and the RSPCA.

Heaven forbid it bounded on the pram and just decided to bite my 2 week old. It would of taken her head off no doubt.

V shaken and waiting for DH to get home to call the police and RSPCA.

I’ve also messaged his daughter on Facebook

OP posts:
Pissedoffdotcom · 29/01/2019 12:37

Sadly yes, the fence thing is very real. A friend had a control order put on her terrier - who genuinely is soft as shit. My own mum was advised not to let her spaniel out unsupervised because he barked at passer-bys & growled at other dogs through the fence. No chance of him escaping or getting hold, just being territorial. It's shocking

Wordthe · 29/01/2019 12:45

This thread is giving me hope that finally the authorities are taking action against irresponsible dog owners.
it's good to know that the law has our back and we don't have to put up with the nuisance and menace caused by unruly dogs

Molakai · 29/01/2019 12:46

Could you answer my question Wordthe

Why did you refer to me as an irresponsible dog owner?

Wordthe · 29/01/2019 12:54

Where on this thread have I said 'molakai is an irresponsible dog owner' ?

Pissedoffdotcom · 29/01/2019 12:59

They just need to ensure that they take into account other factors. Such as off lead dogs attacking on lead dogs, children harassing dogs. It isn't simple

Wordthe · 29/01/2019 13:01

I like to think that the police know what they're talking about when it comes to dogs so if they see fit to take action then I trust them.

Deadbudgie · 29/01/2019 13:02

Pissed off. Sounds like the dog warden was trying to put the frightened on. At the end of the day the law is what it is. If it is misapplied I guess you’d have to appeal. What was the issue with the fence? - I’ve seen some comments in the media about a dog barking through a fence an show there’s lack of control but looking at the legislation this seems unlikely except in v bad circumstances.

But certain unhinged people who obviously have significant issues would try anything to get any dog put to sleep. I hope to god no one like this lives near me. Mind you the amount of dogs round here don’t think they would ever leave their house

Molakai · 29/01/2019 13:07

Wordthe you responded directly to my post in which I used a perfectly reasonable analology with the following ;
When constructing an argument the mind of the irresponsible dog owner always goes straight to the analogy with children

It can only refer to me as I was the one posting the analogy.

I take it that you understand how the english language works? You don't have to use the phrase "Molakai is an irresponsible dog owner" to make that precise accusation.

My analogogy was perfectly sound but you chose to use a weird inference about dog owners equating their pets to children, rather than responsd to point I made. You stated that (broadly speaking) dog owners were "too emotionally involved with their pets to take a rational stance on these issues" which is remains a ridiculous statement.

Wordthe · 29/01/2019 13:09

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Molakai · 29/01/2019 13:15

I'm bullshitting? That is hilarious Grin

Molakai · 29/01/2019 13:17

Perhaps you are too emotionally involved to take a rational stance on these issues Wordthe?

Lizzie48 · 29/01/2019 13:18

I do wonder where some people come across all these unruly dogs. I've been on so many school runs, been out and about with my DDs regularly, and I really haven't come across all these out of control, dangerous animals prowling around. But then, I don't get worked up about dogs on leads or in gardens who bark at me, or my DDs. Because they aren't able to attack, for the most part! And I say as much to my DDs, because I don't want them to grow up terrified of dogs.

I don't doubt that there are some out of control dogs around, but I find it hard to believe there are so many of them around as some of you are making out. IME, the vast majority of dogs I see are well trained and very well looked after. (Although I do object to dog poo in the footpaths, which demonstrates that there are some irresponsible owners around.)

Let's keep some perspective here. These Mumsnet threads become far too polarised IMO.

Pissedoffdotcom · 29/01/2019 13:19

Deadbudgie sadly have had many a run in with dog wardens & DLOS (i used to take bull breeds with problems so got a lot of BSL crap) & yep, he was trying to apply pressure. But once it is down as you having had 'that' visit it is hard to shake it sadly.

The fencing issue with my friend was her terrier barrelling at the garden fence barking. He cannot get out - we know this 100% - but he jumps at the fence in excitement because people = fuss to him. A local family walking past took it aggressively, apparently the dog snapped at the daughter. Dog warden & police involved, because no 'supervision' that meant no control. Dog has a control order. It is BATSHIT but it sadly happens. The legislation can & regularly is twisted to suit.

Pissedoffdotcom · 29/01/2019 13:25

There's a reason many people prefer animals to humans. Because mostly animals react to things rather than going out to cause trouble. If dogs were like some folk on here they would be labelled bad dogs because they actively go out of their way to be pricks.

I'm all for penalising shitty dog OWNERS. For the most part people realise that their actions could have massive impacts on their pets & are sensible

MrMeSeeks · 29/01/2019 13:45

any animal behaving in an aggressive manner whether it's on a lead or not has clearly not been properly trained and is a potential threat, my local council does have an online facility for reporting problem dogs and from now on I'm going to be more proactive and take photographs or film where possible if I come across a problem dog.

Yes i bet you are. Bet you will just be waiting eagerly with your phone Hmm

Pissedoffdotcom · 29/01/2019 13:47

My local council have facility to report ASB. ASB can be interpreted SO many ways...

Pomegranatepompom · 29/01/2019 13:49

I don't understand why dog owners think its acceptable to have their dogs jumping at other people.

My DS is terrified of dogs due to an incident 5 years ago, my DD was knocked over by a dog when she was 2, DH pulled the dog off her by the collar (not roughly imo). the owner came running over shouting I don't appreciate you touching my dog. I just don't understand this mentality....

Pissedoffdotcom · 29/01/2019 13:51

Some irresponsible dog owners may think that is acceptable but the majority don't! My dogs jumping at people would cause me more aggro if nothing else. I prefer them to leave people alone so that people leave THEM alone

Pomegranatepompom · 29/01/2019 13:57

I really don’t mind dogs- my sister has 2. I hate that my DS is petrified of them.

Molakai · 29/01/2019 13:58

It's not a acceptable Pomegranatepompom I don't understand the attitude of some dog owners.

Deadbudgie · 29/01/2019 14:02

Pissed off tgats shit. Surely one of the advantages of having a dog is to warm people are on or near property. Thank god only my neighbours are either side . Those people who complained are idiots. The people who interpreted the law poorly similarly so.

Yep exactly why my dog is a lot better than quite a few people I know.

PorkPatrol · 29/01/2019 14:05

Late to the thread but it sounds like the owners of the dog and the toddler are both irresponsible to me.
The dog being out of control and allowed to knock a child over isn’t good but surely you would just pick your toddler up and speak to the owners not kick and aggravate the animal? The op is lucky it is her leg that got bitten and not her toddlers face.

Pomegranatepompom · 29/01/2019 14:11

How is that lucky????

This thread is bizarre.

Pissedoffdotcom · 29/01/2019 14:24

Deadbudgie they are appealing it currently but yep pretty shit. Even the whole issue of signage is a problem...if you have a sign saying beware of the dog you are apparently stating you have a dangerous dog. World has gone batshit

PorkPatrol · 29/01/2019 14:42

Erm it’s lucky because she kicked and caused a dog to be aggressive and bite when her toddler was right there. I personally think a bite to the toddlers face would be worse than a bite to the ops leg.