Neighbours dog has just attacked me and DD.

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Have had issues with them in the past

They are elderly, with two large breed dogs (think Great Danes?). They cannot control them. Honestly the amount of times I have seen them nearly pull them over in the street/simply pull out of their grasp and go bouncing off and jumping all over people is untrue.

Was walking back from the shop and saw them coming from a distance so I stepped to the side into another neighbours driveway and next thing I know- one of them had pulled out of its owners grasp and came bounding over and knocked DD (who is just about getting confident with her toddling) over.

It was over in seconds- by the time I put the break on the pram (was stood on a slopes drive so it would of ran off into the road) and went to grab DD she was already on the floor the dog barking at her- so I kicked it to get it away, and it bit my leg.

I was furious. Owner very embarrassed an apologetic but I’ve said enough is enough and I would be contacting the police and the RSPCA.

Heaven forbid it bounded on the pram and just decided to bite my 2 week old. It would of taken her head off no doubt.

V shaken and waiting for DH to get home to call the police and RSPCA.

I’ve also messaged his daughter on Facebook

Well, aftervery, very carefulconsideration - of course the dog should still be leashed. People won’t take it as a given that the owner can control it and will still be wary, but of course dogs should be on a leash

There you go... what exactly will sate you?? Your choice is -
a. A dog on leash that is under control... or
B. A dog not on leash that will either savage you or bound up to you, in a puppy like manner, looking for acceptance because it hasn't learnt otherwise.

Would you know the difference?

Which would you prefer - because dog owners are having difficulty in knowing what the elite non dog owners want. Not that we give a fuck tbh....

My dog is well trained. He couldn't give a crap for anyone else and that's the way I like it. Because I couldn't give a crap about anyone else either. I have met some lovely people walking my dog - they are all dog owners. Non dog owners are nothing more than whinging divas - solely because they don't have a clue about dog language/behaviour. Words posts are testament to that. Clueless... but intent on teaching dog owners the theory of debunked dog behaviours...There We go. No dog owner is impressed with outdated non dog owners theories...

You have the right to report every dog you meet. It will be a complete waste of tax payers money but I'm sure you - and Word- will make it your duty to have every dog you meet killed. There are some very inhumane humans in this World.

I much prefer dogs to people...and now I know why.

My NDN dog knocked my DN (20m) over in the street whilst she was holding my hand. I 100% didn’t even consider kicking the dog.

I’ve had the misfortune to come across a vicious dog with my two year old, and the owner was useless, so I kicked its teeth out

Sure you did 🙄

Yep. I had no choice, and I don’t feel guilty.

Did you really kick it’s teeth out? I came on this thread worried about out of control dogs and instead it’s lots of out of control humans. It you really did kick a dogs teeth out, firstly it would require immense strength, you can pick a dog up while playing with a toy, those canines are tough! Are you a professional boxer? This is a stupid lie and makes anything else you have said irrelevant. Not to mention the whole animal abuse issue, unless of course you have a police report, which you should for such a ‘violent’ dog attack

BlueSlipperSocks

If you really kicked it’s teeth out it must have been a very elderly dog and if it’s teeth came out that easily you didn’t really have anything to worry about.

@Justagirlwholovesaboy

I can’t be bothered to repeat the story and I’m sure you don’t care anyway. I really had no choice. It was lunging at my two year old, snarling and trying to bite us. I know nothing about dogs, I don’t know how old it was, but the owner found it funny to watch his dog snarling and my daughter screaming and stood there laughing.

He was also in the wrong legally, not me, as the dog was in a children’s playground (not in the UK).

So there we go.

Oliversmumsarmy

BlueSlipperSocks

If you really kicked it’s teeth out it must have been a very elderly dog and if it’s teeth came out that easily you didn’t really have anything to worry about

I have no idea why you tagged me in this post. I am well aware that nobody, who is confronted with an aggressive dog, will get anywhere near the dog to "kick it's teeth out". Some people live in the land of make believe... Only on MN eh? 🙄

@BlueSlipperSocks

I'm sure you - and Word- will make it your duty to have every dog you meet killed

If anyone lives in the land of make-believe...

“ I kicked its teeth out”

What? Literally?

I mean, I suppose if you’re a rugby player who wears steel toe caps it might be just about physically possible...

This thread has degenerated into one of these keyboard Olympic competitions.
Usual amateur attempts at emotive statements to see who can create the most outrage.
Was a willing participant for a while but you've got to know when to stop.
Usually when people cotton on to the game is a good time.
Seems some are piss poor at recognising the game...

This just reminds me now of the 4 yorkshire men sketch. who's has it worse, eh?

If your "kicked the dogs teeth out" then you've used excessive force that was not suited to the situation. That's like someone shouting at you and you smashing their face off a lampost. If you were trying to protect your child, you would have used defensive moves and remove the dog and focus on getting your child away, not causing as much injury to a dog as possible. So either you're a liar of a bit of a psychopath.

The problem with everyone reporting every dog they see as "attacking them" is that people like word will start reporting any and every dog the ever see unless it is silent, doesn't look at them or move. My dog, when a puppy and still being trained (yes it doesn't happen overnight people) slipped from his collar and wandered over, excitedly, to someone who looked like my DH. He didn't jump, but his tongue was out, tail wagging, little doggy trot. I got him before anyone was traumatised and took him home. I'm guessing some people would have demanded he be destroyed for that. I suppose hey! It's only a dog's life. They clearly don't matter.

Non dog owners are nothing more than whinging divas

Nothing like a wild generalisation, eh?

I just cannot see any reasonable justification for keeping an animal that bothers the general public going about their business. Surely any decent person would be mortified that an animal they have chosen to have bothers or upsets people, let alone bites theim! Whether you like dogs or not is a red herring.

My father kicked a small dog once in the 70s it lunged for my sisters face in the village post office. My sister was strapped into a pushchair at the time before she is blamed for provoking it. The owners were upset with my father he laughed in their faces on that one he put his foot between snappy dogs face and my 2 year old sisters.

I much prefer dogs to people...and now I know why.

An inability to exist normally around other human beings and to form proper social relationships, and so to seek companionship with animals instead, seems to be common among the dog lovers on here.

It’s quite worrying.

Ok...so if a dog owner can't control his dog on a leash is there any point in leashing a dog? Think carefully before you reply

The answer is either train your dog or dont have one if you are clueless. If you have to use your full weight to stop your dog attacking someone who happens to be walking in the same vicinity then it shouldnt be out in public especially unmuzzled. And the dogs in op were leashed they still broke free as owners had no control over them. Its not the publics job to have to avoid, predict or excuse terrible dog owners and thier dogs.

The law clearly states a dog doesnt have to attack you to be out of control. This dog was clearly dangerous as the owner told op to stop walking, and had to use 2 hands to restrain it from approaching her son who was terrified. Thats not under control by any stretch of the imagination.

Wtf should members of the public have to be faced with an aggressive barking dog the owner barely has control over when out walking?

Non dog owners are nothing more than whinging divas

Rubbish. Some of us don't have dogs because we'd rather not feel obliged to walk the said dog in the rain/snow. Plus, I'm very much a cat person.

Plus my DH is allergic.

I have nothing against dogs, I quite like them if they're well trained and don't jump up at me.

This thread is now hysterical!

Ludicrous generalisations from individuals on opposite sides of an argument. FFS people - use rational argument not mindless, sweeping statements that just make you look stupid.

NB my post was directed at specific individuals claiming to know the mindset of the entire population of either dog owners or non dog owners.
(Before I'm accused of generalising about all posters on this thread )

This is terrifying! If a massive dog that I knew to be aggressive care bounding over to my (much older) children, I wouldn’t hesitate to kick it away. I love my dogs more than I like most people, but I fully understand that if they were to knock over a child and bite an adult there would be consequences.

My dogs are not aggressive at all but they do have a tendency to be a bit giddy and jumpy, so when I’m out with them, I ensure I keep them on the lead and tighten it or pull them to one side as others pass. It is my responsibility as their owner to ensure that no one is bothered by them.

Many people don’t like dogs, some find them intimidating and scary. If some dog owners could just be more considerate of others and not assume that everyone will love their pet sniffing around them, many of these issues could be avoided.

*came not care obviously.

LuaDipa actually the OP does not describe the dogs as "known to be aggressive". She says Honestly the amount of times I have seen them nearly pull them over in the street/simply pull out of their grasp and go bouncing off and jumping all over people is untrue.

Bouncing and jumping are not adjectives normally used to describe aggressive, dangerous dogs.

These dogs are obviously out of their owners control and action should be taken. Being out of control means that they could cause accidents, scare people or endanger themselves. But going by the OP's own words they sound more like your dogs than the Hound of the Baskervilles.

You are entirely in the wrong. 100%. You KICKED an animal. It had ACCIDENTALLY knocked over your child. YABVVVVU.

Wow there are some shocking statements on both sides here. Neither of which make either side look brilliant.

A dog on a lead is not necessarily under control, especially if the owner has to make other people stop & brace herself. Sorry but regardless of your views on dogs, if you own one you need to be aware of the law changes & make sure nobody can make claim your dog is in any way a danger. The staff pulling its owner who panicked is a classic example of someone unable to control their dog