To feel despair about holocaust deniers

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How shocking that 1 in 20 denies the holocaust. I'm quite horrified by that figure and find it really troubling.

Yanbu

YANBU! It's appalling. Who exactly are these dimwits?

It is horrifying. And I think the rise of the far right and a sort of brainless populism globally, but particularly in the USA and Europe, means that people are feeling emboldened to voice these opinions.

Its disgusting and terrifying in equal measures. I am ashamed of our society.

YANBU. Horrific

YADNBU.

I find it really hard to imagine that anyone would think that, and like you say, voice it too. Just as we hit the time when the last survivors are dying out What is wrong with people?

They deny it? Like, they believe it didn’t happen??

There will always be some crackpots who deny fact - eg moon landings - but 5% is higher than I would have expected.

Do you have a link for the source study?

Yes marypoppins

It's on the BBC website today. It's a survey, carried out in the UK

Best thing you can do is to talk loads about it and make it a big deal. We’re Jewish and obviously today is Holocaust Remembrance Day. My dd brought a book about the Holocaust home from the library this week ( totally coincidental, though she has been learning about the wars at school). We read it and then I sat and watched some videos with her, I also showed her some photos of the concentration camps (available on google images but must be monitored unless you have a much older child). Mine is year 1 though and perfectly able to understand the concept and to watch certain videos and look at photos under supervision. Connecting it to current events, like the persecution of immigrants and Muslims also helped as she already knew a bit about that, particularly some of what’s happening in the US.

The sheer ignorance of it is astonishing. The number of people who aren't actually "denying" it (which is of course utterly repugnant) but those who apparently have never even heard of it! Have these people never been to school, watched the tv, looked at a newspaper, had discussions about the war with parents/grandparents? There have been so many films and books over the last decade or two, you don't need to study history to at least know of it

.I can't remember a time when I didn't know about it, and I didn't learn about it at school (am too old for it to have been on the syllabus) but must have picked it up through films or hearing adult discussion.

It's utterly vile and disgusting.

I was reading this this morning. Are holocaust deniers generally the type that are flat earthers and go in for conspiracy theories?. I sometimes can't decide if education is at fault, or people are getting addled and influenced by what they read online in various forms. Either way I find it very alarming.

YABU to this they even know what they are talking about so their denial really is meaningless.

News flash, there’s lots of stupid/uneducated/low on thinking people around. I bet if you ask them right after ‘so what is the holocaust’ they won’t even be able to answer. So spend your tome worrying about the state of education for some people in the UK instead of this.

1 in 20!? Bloody hell.

I didn't believe it, then had a scan of some Facebook threads and they definitely do exist! But they're the posters that post lots of "facts" (that aren't facts at all) and then disappear, so difficult to engage and explain their misunderstanding.

*The sheer ignorance of it is astonishing. The number of people who aren't actually "denying" it (which is of course utterly repugnant) but those who apparently have never even heard of it! Have these people never been to school, watched the tv, looked at a newspaper, had discussions about the war with parents/grandparents? There have been so many films and books over the last decade or two, you don't need to study history to at least know of it

.I can't remember a time when I didn't know about it, and I didn't learn about it at school (am too old for it to have been on the syllabus) but must have picked it up through films or hearing adult discussion.*

Sadly Starbucks I think this seems to be a thing with some people today. The lack of general knowledge of supposedly quite intelligent people is astounding. When I watch quiz shows etc (haha I know, the barometer for ascertaining public knowledge on all things!) I’m often really surprised at the very basic general knowledge people don’t have any more.

I can believe that some people deny the holocust ever happened same people that think slavery wasn’t that bad and deny that 4 million or so black Africans died during the transatlantic passage.

Just to clarify, I'm not Jewish but I still must have first heard of it at primary school age.

Sadly in UK schools very little is taught about the misery of slavery.

People who deny the holocaust happened are either incredibly stupid (and that is not a word I use lightly) or they have a rather vile agenda.

There are literally people who think it’s called the “Hall Of Cost”

I don’t think it even needs to be taught in schools. Do people not open a book or paper, watch the news, films or tv? It’s really not hard at all to find reference to the Holocaust even in media which are not directly on that topic. Does no one talk to family members and discuss what went on in the past? Too busy looking up stupid YouTube videos of people playing Fortnite and Instagrams of someone cleaning her house to actually take in basic general knowledge of the world around them. OK I’m generalising and sound about 100 but I think there’s something in what I’m saying even if no one else does!

Kids learn about the holocaust in yr5/6. In year 4 we learn about the civil rights movement.

I do think more should be taught about slavery even though it's not a time period that covers the west in glory at all.