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to be really shocked by this statistic?

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MyBreadIsEggy · 27/01/2019 08:53

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6636337/One-20-Britons-not-believe-Holocaust-took-place-study-finds.html

Apologies in advance that it’s a Daily Fail article, but one in 20?! Really?!

1 in 20 Brits in 2019 are Holocaust deniers?
It makes me feel sick to think there are people in this country who would be so ignorant.

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MyBreadIsEggy · 27/01/2019 08:53

Again, fucking link doesn’t work Hmm
Here we go:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6636337/One-20-Britons-not-believe-Holocaust-took-place-study-finds.html

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PristineCondition · 27/01/2019 08:55

Id like to see the full results of the study.

Auntiepatricia · 27/01/2019 08:56

I think you’ll find that 20% of Britons are pretty ignorant/uninformed/mindlessly deluded about pretty much any topic.

Or even 51.9%.

SexNotJenga · 27/01/2019 08:57

Half the population are of below-average intelligence. So take the bottom 5%...

Charlie97 · 27/01/2019 08:58

@Auntiepatricia Grin true!

Flowersonthewall · 27/01/2019 08:58

It is the daily mail!
I was just talking abut this with my Dh and as time goes on surely less and less people will talk about it? For example the boar war which happened just 30 years before second World War...who knows how many people died in that war?
I'm not belittling the holocaust and am shocked that that many people don't know about it but as time goes on isn't that going to be the case as with every other tragic event in history?

HouseyMcHouseFace · 27/01/2019 08:59

I find it shocking but as pp said there are an awful lot of stupid people! It would be interesting to see it next to statistics from the same people showing how many believe the moon landing happened or how many know what the Abel if the prime minister is.

RosemarysBush · 27/01/2019 08:59

That is shocking. But I’m not sure 2000 is a representative sample of a population of 66million. Who did they ask? Then at the end, the writer blames the internet but with no reason why.

HouseyMcHouseFace · 27/01/2019 08:59

*name not Abel 😳

HouseyMcHouseFace · 27/01/2019 09:00

It’s also reported on the BBC so shouldn’t just be dismissed as it’s on the DM

MyBreadIsEggy · 27/01/2019 09:00

I just find it completely unbelievable that anyone can deny such a thing happening when:

  • There’s blatant physical evidence of it in the forms of concentration camps that still stand, recovered artifacts, exhumed human remains around the camps, soil samples testing positive for human remains, and the fact that there are still survivors of such places still alive to tell the tale.
  • It is part of the history taught as part of the National Curriculum (or at least it still was when I was at school less than 10 years ago!)
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TheSheepofWallSt · 27/01/2019 09:02

Just reading this in the guardian.

Horrifying, but I think some of it (especially the ignorance) must be symptomatic of an educational failure- how can a child get through school without being taught WW2 and Holocaust history?

Anniegetyourgun · 27/01/2019 09:02

XH is one of 'em. Or pretended to be because it annoyed me, I'll never know which.

jellybean85 · 27/01/2019 09:02

Grasping at straws but was it a badly worded question maybe?
Maybe people don't really know the full details etc or anything exactly what countries it took place in so ticked the box "maybe"?
So not so much denying it but confused by badly planned survey

OftenHangry · 27/01/2019 09:03

This is exactly how the camps were able to run that ling. People didn't believe they existed because they couldn't believe someone could really do such horrific things.

I have been saying for last 5 years that humanity will survive another 50 years and that's it... The amount of stupid is actually scary.

Auntiepatricia · 27/01/2019 09:04

I think it depends on what was asked. It’s peobably just s loaf of people who don’t know actually what the holocaust is and have some vague recollection that the word is something controversial so they pic either believe or don’t believe to seem like they know what it is.

MyBreadIsEggy · 27/01/2019 09:04

jellybean I hope it does turn out to just be a shittily worded survey - but I’m not holding out much hope on that front.

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Threehoursfromhome · 27/01/2019 09:04

Sixteen percent of adults in the UK are functionally illiterate, with a reading age of 11 or less. There's lots of people out there without the skills to understand the evidence.

literacytrust.org.uk/parents-and-families/adult-literacy/

Others are far right and have a political agenda in denying the evidence.

Yousignup · 27/01/2019 09:05

I live in a part of Europe where every day we can see visible testaments to the Holocaust. Public education is also very strong on this, as it has affected so many people here and across this part of Europe.
I kind of see what you mean, flowers, but for us this is a very strong part of our recent past, and I don't think it will go away. Also the Boer War was not the same same as what happened in the 1930s.

Percy11 · 27/01/2019 09:06

Holocaust Memorial Day: 'Shocking' levels of denial remain www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47015184

Here’s the BBC link.
According to that article it was run for the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust by Opinion Matters, so I wouldn’t readily dismiss it just because it’s in the DM.

Just goes to show how important it is to continue educate everyone on historical events. Do not let the past repeat itself.

Another related article :
www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/beta/canvas/holocaust-stories

CallMeVito · 27/01/2019 09:07

People will find it easier and easier to deny it. We are surrounded by fake information, doctored photos and you know that everything you see on the internet has to be taken with a massive pinch of salt. That will be the argument about all the information relative to the holocaust.

You can find any theory and its opposite with "reliable" sources online.

showing how many believe the moon landing happened most people who have an opinion haven't got the technical knowledge to make an inform opinion one way or another, they just chose a theory they read online and are running with it.

Then there's the political aspect of it.

mycatplotsdeath · 27/01/2019 09:08

Its just been on sky news.
They were saying that there is also a rise in verbal abuse towards the Jewish community and used what has been happening to Rachel Riley on Twitter.
It's just shocking how people can be so strand down right racist

falcon5 · 27/01/2019 09:08

Although if we are going to mention the Boer war it seems very uncommon knowledge that the British made concentration camps where Afrikaaner woomen and children were placed ended with the death of significant numbers of children from starvation and exposure.

CallMeVito · 27/01/2019 09:11

People didn't believe they existed because they couldn't believe someone could really do such horrific things

I disagree. We all know about things just as horrific happening today, and we chose not to care. People who were adults during the holocaust were also in the middle of a war, so can be somehow excused for being busy trying to survive and many couldn't do much about it. What's people's excuse nowadays when they hear about the latest slaughter?

Guineapiglet345 · 27/01/2019 09:11

People are fucking stupid, sometimes they’re so stupid it’s hard to believe but just look at the number of anti-vaxxers, people who believe in UFOs, ghosts etc.

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