To think Tina Malone deserves no sympathy

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She's in trouble legally for allegedly sharing photos of one of James Bulgar's killers. She is getting lots of support online but I think people are letting their hatred of the crime cloud their judgement. Surely exploiting a tragedy to get attention is not something that should be applauded! This wasn't done with any intention of "helping" James's family, was it?

They were damaged children themselves. That my no means takes away from what they did but it needs remembering. And whatever anyone thinks they have been granted legal anonymity to protect themselves and others.
She shouldn't have shared identities, all she did was cause more upset and mean more money had to be spent to change their identities again. She also put blameless people at risk. She and anyone else doing the same should be prosecuted.

Their names should never have been released in the first place.

No I mean because he was often named in the press as Jamie,

That's my point - why do the press do that? It looks sloppy and disrespectful when they keep calling him Jamie when it wasn't his name and the family have said it wasn't.

YANBU, and this demonstrates for the umpteenth time why they should not have been identified.

My sympathy is with Denise Fergus and family.

its appalling that Denise is put through this over and over and over again.

babyspider I also think there are certain posts here dripping with sympathy for those men.
Each to their own but some posters could benefit from some serious internal searching if the rights of killers takes precedence over everything.

That was harsh Bluelady.

Human rights take precedence over everything and no one should be denied those.

Babies and children are tortured and murdered all the time, about once a week where mainly boyfriends, fathers and step fathers kill or severely injure thier children. But there’s almost no sanctimonious signalling compared to the crimes committed by these two children.

Yes,, it was harsh, which was why I had MNHQ take it down. It's still how I feel though. Genuine question, how is it relevant to human rights?

But i say again if your daughter, niece, son etc etc was in a relationship with either of these, wouldn't you want them to be able to make the choice themselves
If they wanted that?

It's relevant to human rights because there's no way the two offenders would have any chance of a life if their identity was known.

I don’t know what you posted Bluelady but Bulger and Venables deserve to have their human rights enforced (if that’s the right word).

Also, your passive aggression is pathetic.

Passive aggressive? How?

Both of them will have to disclose who they are in relationships with and if there is a hint of concern their identify would be disclosed.

I gather through the grapevine that Roberrt Thompson is in a relationship with a man.

I don’t know and JV ...he is now a registered sex offender so it’s hard seeing him having a relationship with anyone. The authorities would be on it like a rocket if he got involved with anyone vulnerable.

And I agree entirely @findingmyfeet12. .

She’s stupid. She deserves everything she gets.

We had a case where ‘Robert venables’ was found to be living in a council house in our town. His photo shared, his placed of work identified.

He got absolutely battered, broken jaw. Literally pulverised. His council house had bricks thrown through its windows. His boss threatened.

It wasn’t him.

It was a man, of the same age, from an unknown background. But some vigilante group took it amongst themselves to deal out their own form of justice.

This is why we have the law, rightly or wrongly to protect those with new identities, but also to protect people like the man from my town.

southeastdweller "I don’t know what you posted Bluelady but Bulger and Venables deserve to have their human rights enforced (if that’s the right word)."

Good grief! Talk about mistaken identity!

Hasn’t he already outed himself several times and needed new identities. A good barrister will drive a bus through it.

Your post at 17.25 Blue.

I also think there are certain posts here dripping with sympathy for those men.
Each to their own but some posters could benefit from some serious internal searching if the rights of killers takes precedence over everything.

Where?

Why does acknowledging that Thompson and Venables came from a troubled background and trying to seek explanations as to why (a) they did what they did and (b) why rehabilitation hasn’t worked, at least in Venables’ case equate to “sympathy” for them at all, let alone over and above everything else?

They were 10 years old when they did this. A few months’ younger and they wouldn’t even have been convicted. What they did was horrific I have a 10 year old and I cannot get my head round someone his age being able to do something like that. But like it or not you can’t treat 10 year olds the same as you do adults. That’s just being sensible. It doesn’t equate to having sympathy for the killers.

My post that I regretted posting and nobody else can read, you mean? OK.

I don't care about him. I do care if we have to chuck several more million at protecting his identity and changing his appearance because of this so she deserves punishing.

The anonymity order is a bit of a joke now though and really needs to be scrapped. He's committed multiple crimes as an adult and people have the right to know if they need to be wary. There are several pictures of him online which appear to be genuine, certainly match the circumstances in the report on his release. They are taken down if posted on reputable sites but the police have never exposed them as a hoax as they have others, so it's fairly nailed on to be him. It's common knowledge where he lived and what his job was. Anybody who wanted to do him harm could easily recognise him, so it's not really protecting him from them, it's just stopping children being protected from him.

What Schmoobarb said

He's not rehabilitated.

He's still a danger.

But because people want to protect his human rights we can't know who he is or what he looks like.

Let's protect his right to anonymity though eh.

Never mind the children where he's
Now living. Or people he's taking to online. Or swiping whatever way it is to get a date on tinder.

So long as he gets yet another chance eh.