To think Tina Malone deserves no sympathy

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She's in trouble legally for allegedly sharing photos of one of James Bulgar's killers. She is getting lots of support online but I think people are letting their hatred of the crime cloud their judgement. Surely exploiting a tragedy to get attention is not something that should be applauded! This wasn't done with any intention of "helping" James's family, was it?

How about for something they did at 10 and have never learned from, despite rehabilitation, and have gone on to repeatedly reoffend?

Any crime they commit anyone commits as an adult they should be held accountable for as an adult. No-one has said otherwise.

What I object to is people saying what they did at age TEN they should be held accountable for and held in prison for, for their entire life.

I am sympathetic towards two 10 year olds. I'm also horrified at the nature of mob mentality and the DM style language used "monsters". I studied this subject many years ago so it is of particular interest.

I think too many people think that sympathy for the 10 year olds dilutes sympathy towards the James and his family.

But children have grown up in those circumstances and haven't done what they did, where do we draw the line at excusing them?

Can you point me to the posters who say they should never have been excused and not held accountable?

No-one has said they shouldn't have been through the court system and given a sentence.

There are just some people, like me, saying a crime committed by a ten year old should not lead to a life sentence. Because they were young children and should not be treated as being as accountable as an adult would.

I cannot understand why she has done this. Why would anyone, what does it achieve? Stupid gossipy woman. I'd never heard of her before this and having googled, don't recognise her. i hope she fades back into obscurity.

"Children don't commit these types of crimes" is the line used by the media in relation to Myra Hindley, they said that women don't commit these types of crimes.

It's a silly argument. Whilst I have sympathy for them as a previous poster wrote, I've never said they should have been let off with a caution.

naturally people would think he was known as Jamie rather than James.

Why? James was his name. Not everyone called James is known as Jamie.

What they did was planned. They planned it.

They tried to take another child before they took James.

That isn't normal. Yes they grew up in horrific circumstances but a lot of other people do and I can't think of any case where they have gone on to do what they did.

I don't think anyone is saying they should be excused AnitaGreen, more that we need to understand how primary school aged boys could do something so evil.

It is complete pot luck how some children from horrific backgrounds go on to be "normal" and others like Venables and Thompson do what they did.

One of the boys, I think Thompson, said in interviews revealed in the recent channel 5 documentary that "life got better" after he killed James. He was not gloating but pointing out that his home life was so awful that life in prison was better.

My DSis is a social worker and regularly deals with very violent and disturbed children, all of whom have had awful family backgrounds/lives. There needs to be much more understanding/intervention but the money is not there and the result is more and more violent kids committing crimes and if not caught and stopped becoming violent adults.

They are monsters evil wicked cruel monsters. Who set out that day to hurt (I can't say kill) a child. They very nearly got another (a little girl). A few minutes before the took James. This wasn't an a prank that went wrong. They knew exactly what they were doing. They even tried to make his murder look like an accident by placing his body on the tracks.
Poor James was crying asking for his mum. The fear that poor little baby must have felt just doesn't bare thinking about.
Oh and all that. They had a bad childhood. I'm no denying that. However lots of kids have a difficult childhood, but They don't torture babies to death

Is it pot luck though.

I can't think of any other cases where kids from this type of awful background did what they did.

Mary Bell?

I have to say if I knew for a fact the photos were of Jon V I would show my family and friends.

I wouldn't share online but I would show people to make them aware as he is still a danger isn't he.

Yep Mary bell.

No I mean because he was often named in the press as Jamie,

The point of the thread was about the anonymity. Regardless of a person's crimes I still stand by not revealing someone's identity where there's a chance of mob revenge.

I have to admit that I find it hard to think of adults who kill children being rehabilitated but I'm still happy to be guided by the experts.

So obviously it was one of the killers then and not a possibly innocent person. So it was his photo. I think Jamie Bulger’s killers should never know a minutes peace in their life if I’m honest. I am surprised they are prosecuting Tina when thousands shared the image online.

I don't know. Imagine finding out your daughter was pregnant by Jon v.

Or in a relationship with him.

Or talking to him online and she was a minor.

I think she's a fool. She never shuts up when on telly. Goes on about how amazing she looks for her age, that her husband is a tomboy and she has a toddler. She's an immature idiot who was caught with drugs. Is is another example of her stupidity.

"I am surprised they are prosecuting Tina when thousands shared the image online."

Why would you think Tina Malone is the only person being prosecuted? Do you really think the papers are going to find out and publish the names of everyone who shared the photo? They've mentioned Tina Malone purely because she's a TV actress not because she's been singled out for prosecution and everyone else is getting off scot-free!

Her husband is a tomboy? How unusual.

im not a fan of Tina Malone. She didnt seem too bothered about doing drugs around kids.

But im very suspicious about this story breaking now. It will get people all lathered up about the human rights act and how it protects these two too much just a few days after this news.....................................

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-human-rights-act-repeal-brexit-echr-commons-parliament-conservatives-a8734886.html

Well that would be a good way to clog up the Courts for the foreseeable future wouldn’t it? How about the Justice system concentrate on very real crimes and stop pandering to these two killers!

We don't know that either it was a photo of either Venables or Thompson but the crime is the same regardless. She broke a court order by doing what she did and saying what she did.

Also, we don't know whether she is the only one being prosecuted, just the most gobshitey one. Even so, it's excellent publicity for this being a crime and may well serve as a warning to those idiots who do share such photos.

I was never happy with the publicity they got at the time, the being identified and being tried as they were (as adults was it?). I think people are too quick to label children as monsters and not willing to either look at what turned them into a child which does this or how money should be spent in helping children in these circumstances so that fewer children act like this.

The example of Mary Bell earlier made this clear yet there does not seem to be any sort of campaign against her; she is now a grandmother and living a private life. Is this due to the lack of continual publicity and the absence of intrusive media and social media at the time of her crimes, sentence and release?

She and those who see no problem with sharing these posts are usually those who whine when more money has to be spent changing their identities yet again.

IMO - they should have got life with no chance of parole whatsoever.

Even James’s mum didn’t want that, nor does she want Venables identified.

No sympathy for Tina Malone. Whether you agree with the anonymity or not it’s wrong to breach a court order, and if she’s done it she needs to take the consequences.