To think Tina Malone deserves no sympathy

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She's in trouble legally for allegedly sharing photos of one of James Bulgar's killers. She is getting lots of support online but I think people are letting their hatred of the crime cloud their judgement. Surely exploiting a tragedy to get attention is not something that should be applauded! This wasn't done with any intention of "helping" James's family, was it?

Why aren't they going after the platform? If you see something online with a button from the provider saying "share" then there's an assumption that there won't be repercussions from sharing it because you'd think that the platform, with all the resources re lawyers etc that they have, would block anything illegal.

There's not an assumption. That would involve censorship which would be met with utter horror; and in fact was when the court sent the correct paperwork to the platform involved and they removed the image from being viewable in the UK.

You are responsible for your behaviour online just as you are if you said something. There is no way that the platforms could or should check or censor what is being posted. If you share something, you do that of your own accord.

What does "children are seen as innocent and beautiful" mean

Children are seen as having diminished responsibility under the law because they don't share the reasoning of adults is more accurate.

Phrases such as "its the parents I feel sorry for" are similar sentimental nonsense. It goes without saying.

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I googled her but don't know her.

I think she's a soap actress but I recognise her from Shameless.

As others have said there’s no real way to know if those in the photos are really those men. It could be anyone. And it could mean an innocent person is hurt in the process. Or even if it is them, a similar looking person might be misidentified at them and hurt.

If I had a big online following and posted a photo of someone I was told was them but had no way of verifying if that was true, and an innocent person was hurt or killed as a result, I wouldn’t be able to live with myself.

The police/ system have gone crazy protecting kid killers. I don't understand it. Isn't one of them a repeat offender? Why don't we have a right to keep our kids safe

No they haven't. They get no more protection than anyone else who has served the time that they were sentenced to and been granted anonymity.

I believe if you lived near Venables, you'd be able to use the normal processes to make wise decisions, but you wouldn't be told he was Venables.

Whatever your opinion on whether they should be free; or have been given new identities, the solution was never to let randomers share pictures of people who may or may not be them on social media. Mob justice has gone wrong too many times before. Innocent people could very easily be killed if they are misidentified as Venables, just like when the Boston bomber was misidentified and killed himself.

No sympathy for her at all. It's well known it's against the law to share images of them. The chance of an innocent man being targeted by mistake is huge. Sadly many people in this country are of the "Lynch them!" persuasion.
She deserves what she gets.

If your neighbour was an offender and changed their name and looks, would you be any the wiser? It seems a lot of people look into all their neighbours backgrounds, check their identities including previous names, etc.

You could still notify the police if you thought their behaviour was suspect.

That's a good point about Sarah's Law. Would they be exceptions?

I think she was a dick. She knew damn well what she was doing, for all her claims to the contrary.

Do I have sympathy for the killers? Not an ounce of it. I still find myself feeling an unreasonable level of hatred towards them, even reminding myselves they were 10 years old at the time, even believing in rehabilitation and redemption. But it is precisely because I feel such anger and hatred that I am glad we have a system that protects us from acting on those feelings. If I knew one of them lived next door I would want to do something appalling to them (I don't think I would but I would want to). It's not them the system is protecting so much as us, if that makes sense.

Surely if Tina is prosecuted, it'll just confirm that it's him?

She's an idiot. The vigilantes that are supporting her are idiots. You only need to look at the lamentable standards of SPAG on the supportive Twitter comments to realise there isn't a brain cell between them.

Empty vessels make the most noise.

Surely if Tina is prosecuted, it'll just confirm that it's him?

No; the offence is contempt of court. She believed she was sharing a photo of someone despite an injunction against it. It doesn't matter if it was him or not, in terms of the offence being committed - she just needs to have believed it was him.

YANBU she is a desperate attention seeker and it's backfired big time.

AnchorDown maybe preventing the dissemination of illegal content would be met by "utter horror" by some people, but I think it's a reasonable goal myself. For example I wouldn't be too chuffed if ISIS started tweeting.

And Twitter weren't hauled up for allowing it.

I'm not sure about the paedophile hunters. As long as they let the police take over and are well versed in the evidence laws etc I think some of them do a good job where police resources just cannot stretch that far.

I follow a local paedophile hunting group and have seen loads of dodgy practices, and in fact 4 of them were charged and held in prison for essentially kidnapping a suspect by not letting him leave the area where he was confronted and assaulting him.

I have also seen a real victim identified. The guy had boasted about having sex with his stepdaughter in his school uniform. Anyone who knew the family would know who that poor girl was.

I also once saw a sting where they went to a guys door who had boasted about having access to kids, the wife and stepkids were there. Hopefully it means any children were safe from abuse afterwards, but again the wife and stepkids would be identifiable from the video.

www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/calls-made-to-put-an-end-to-out-of-control-vigilante-groups-1-4810258

Didn't she get caught doing cocaine while performing in a panto? Not the brightest I'm guessing.

I don't agree with what she did. I think it's dangerous and downright stupid.
A lot of people don't seem to have the intellect to be able to deal with situations regarding paedophiles. There have been examples of 'mob justice ' being carried out on entirely innocent people who have been completely innocent of any offence, such as the lady who was a Paediatrician a few years ago who had her home vandalised with paint by vigilantes who daubed paedophile on her walls and made horrible threats against her to the point where she had to flee, or the man recently who was branded a paedophile, had his home vandalised and ended up murdered because people very, very wrongly be lived he was a paedophile, simply because he had learning difficulties and enjoyed, innocently, the company of children.
Putting photos of someone out there and stating that it is such a person is not only dangerous, but it's the height of stupidity.
No one but those who need to know can be sure of what either of those killers look like. Showing a photo of someone and stating that it is such a person can lead to an entirely innocent person losing their lives.
She, and others who participated in this should quite rightly face the weight of the law.

Apologies for using a Dm link 😬this is what happens when the wrong people get identified
www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-6115209/Prosecutors-Men-killed-mob-Mexican-town-not-criminals.html

I would want to know where these two are - to protect my children. IMO - they should have got life with no chance of parole whatsoever.

Even if the right person is identified. A mob can never be allowed to hand out punishment.

I can imagine that lots of dodgy stuff goes on with these paedophile hunters Ginger. I'm always suspicious when they are so keen to post videos of their stings. They enjoy the publicity. Why not just quietly hand over the evidence to the police?

They are far more closely monitored than your average ex-con which is how they caught Venables with the child abuse images and there may well be systems in place to protect the public without us being aware of it.

Whilst I think it is a travesty that he is not locked up as he is clearly a danger, it is illegal to share photos of them. The law doesn’t require you to agree or like it, it just requires you to follow it. Tina Malone didn’t. She is a high profile person, potentially with more influence than the general public and she willfully broke the law and potentially put innocent people at risk. She deserves everything she gets.

If you don’t think the law is fit for purpose then you have to petition to get it changed.

Alongside the potential for innocent people to get targeted, the likes of Malone also have no compunction in winding up some stupid dipshit who will take it upon themselves to administer “justice” which they (and their families and communities) will have to face the consequences for. Malone and all those that think like her would never take it upon themselves to do the dirty work, they don’t want to put themselves in that position. They want their revenge jollies via a proxy, so I’m sorry, they really do not care that much about James and his family, they are just violent cowards who are willfully making this whole process more complicated, dangerous and expensive than it should be.

YANBU

They are protected by law and you can't just go around ignoring the law if you don't like it. Especially on something like this when a case of mistaken identity could lead to someone being attacked. And when more public money will be wasted helping the man in question to become anonymous/ go into hiding.

it doesn't matter how much anyone hates him. You can't go around beating the crap out of/ or enabling others to kick the crap out of people you hate.