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To think Tina Malone deserves no sympathy

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poldarkssecretlover · 26/01/2019 09:36

She's in trouble legally for allegedly sharing photos of one of James Bulgar's killers. She is getting lots of support online but I think people are letting their hatred of the crime cloud their judgement. Surely exploiting a tragedy to get attention is not something that should be applauded! This wasn't done with any intention of "helping" James's family, was it?

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southeastdweller · 27/01/2019 09:26

So what if she's been made an example of? It doesn't make what she did less wrong. Do you think the police have the resources to find the other moron's who've stupidly shared the images?

But if her deservedly getting punished acts as a deterrent to others then that's great.

LadyRochfordsIcedGusset · 27/01/2019 09:34

She's probably more bothered about where her 'Snow" is...

"Where's me snow?" - couldn't make it up.

BusterGonad · 27/01/2019 10:10

South are you talking to me?

findingmyfeet12 · 27/01/2019 10:11

I can't believe people are actually saying that human rights aren't universal. I hope you aren't the same people who criticise other countries for human rights abuses.

The sentences are a different issue to the anonymity. The anonymity is there to prevent a lynching. It's there to prevent our society turning into something from Lord of the Flies which given some of the language on here, it clearly would.

southeastdweller · 27/01/2019 10:12

Yes Buster, you and people on this thread who've said the same thing.

HawayMan · 27/01/2019 10:36

She won't actually go to jail. Everyone knows that that would cause too much outrage.

twattymctwatterson · 27/01/2019 10:48

It was Venebles who led James away. He also had the history of bizarre and violent behaviour. Thompson got the blame because he acted tough in the interviews and his family life was more obviously very dysfunctional with an alcoholic mother and a brother who had voluntarily put himself into care.

Venebles family was more outwardly "decent" although there were problems there too.

BusterGonad · 27/01/2019 10:54

Finding I understand what you are say re human rights but it's really gone rather crazy, these days the perpetrator tends to get treated better than the victim. Too many liberals imo.

newnameforthis7 · 27/01/2019 11:00

Agree with Buster. I am all for 'human rights' when it comes to people in poorer countries (or even the UK) having clean water, warm shelter, decent food, decent clothing, and a decent standard of living.

I do NOT agree with human rights when it comes to a little bastard who murdered a toddler, and then went on to be a perpetual offender in his adulthood; downloading 1000's of images of child porn.

Venables is fucked up to the nth degree, and needs castrating IMO.

Does he deserve human rights?

Does he fuck! Hmm

BusterGonad · 27/01/2019 11:04

Newname totally agree, he's had long enough to use his upbringing as an excuse. As many people have mentioned many people have had bad upbringings but do not snatch a toddler/child and do disgusting things to them.

findingmyfeet12 · 27/01/2019 11:06

The idea that human rights are subjective is ridiculous and shocking.

Are you honestly saying that if this person's identity was revealed he wouldn't be killed in the streets?

I certainly don't want to live in a society where we allow mobs to take matters into their own hands.

As a society we have to find ways of dealing with people that don't result in bloodshed on the streets.

The very fact that this case is so shocking is why the anonymity is absolutely necessary. People cannot be trusted not to react violently if their names were revealed.

newnameforthis7 · 27/01/2019 11:08

EXACTLY Buster!

Anyone making excuses for that little vile parasite Venables, needs to give their head a wobble! Hmm

Yeah Thompson was no angel, and was involved of course, but Thompson has rehabilitated, and has not re-offended.

findingmyfeet12 · 27/01/2019 11:09

If you want to down that route, people in different countries will have different ideas about who is and isn't deserving of human rights.

I hope you don't complain when they torture criminals etc because they don't think they deserve human rights.

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findingmyfeet12 · 27/01/2019 11:11

I cannot converse with people who are happy to live in a society where we allow street lynchings.

I hope you never get on a high horse when you hear reports of human rights abuses in other countries.

findingmyfeet12 · 27/01/2019 11:13

I'm not decided on the death penalty (as you have deemed me a liberal apologist). My issue is that justice should be given out by those whose job it is, not mobs.

icannotremember · 27/01/2019 11:22

Extracts of the police interviews of Venables and Thompson are available, although I would not recommend reading them- I wish I had not. They are hideously upsetting. But they do illustrate quite significant differences in the emotional response of each one.

Schmoobarb · 27/01/2019 11:25

My issue is that justice should be given out by those whose job it is, not mobs.

Exactly. So having respect for the rule of law and the criminal justice system means someone is a “liberal apologist”. How very Daily Mail.

Schmoobarb · 27/01/2019 11:27

Extracts of the police interviews of Venables and Thompson are available, although I would not recommend reading them- I wish I had not. They are hideously upsetting. But they do illustrate quite significant differences in the emotional response of each one.

I haven’t read them but I do remember reading something by a police officer who said that Thompson’s lawyer snapped and grabbed him and said something to him like “don’t you ever cry, you little bastard?” as he was so cold.

Schmoobarb · 27/01/2019 11:30

Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if this happened to Venables.

Again, Mrs Fergus doesn’t want this to happen. Why do random people seem to think their bloodthirstiness usurps what she wants? Why don’t you have any respect for the victim’s mother? She wants them locked up, not to be identified and lynched.

findingmyfeet12 · 27/01/2019 11:31

Even if a victim wants a lynching - it shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Samcro · 27/01/2019 11:31

thing is imo you can't be angry about a violent murder and the wish one on someone. bit odd.
I don't wish them dead, just do not agree that they are some kind of victims.
they are killers.

Schmoobarb · 27/01/2019 11:33

Even if a victim wants a lynching - it shouldn't be allowed to happen.

Exactly. This is why we have a criminal justice system. Do I always agree with what that system does? No. Does that mean I can take the law into my own hands? Also no.

findingmyfeet12 · 27/01/2019 11:34

For me the fact that they were only 10 is pretty significant and a mitigating factor.

There have been other cases involving adults where I've found it hard not to want the death penalty tbh.

icannotremember · 27/01/2019 11:36

Why don’t you have any respect for the victim’s mother? She wants them locked up, not to be identified and lynched.

Yes, this. James's mum wants justice for her son. She does not want vigilante violence. There has been enough senseless violence and death in her life already. If we listen to anyone in this case, it should be her, surely?

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