To think Tina Malone deserves no sympathy

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She's in trouble legally for allegedly sharing photos of one of James Bulgar's killers. She is getting lots of support online but I think people are letting their hatred of the crime cloud their judgement. Surely exploiting a tragedy to get attention is not something that should be applauded! This wasn't done with any intention of "helping" James's family, was it?

Wasn't there some talk of them having had plastic surgery anyway?

There's a reason that the multiple other child killers since James' murder have retained their anonymity. It's because the judicial system is well aware of how much of a colossal fuck up they made with Thompson and Venables. It fuelled the obsession we (the public) have with them and this crime.

Tina Malone is a fuck wit who could have had a man killed and not necessarily a guilty one. A man took his own life a while back when he was mistaken for Robert Thompson. Locals in the Scottish town he moved to hounded and harassed him until he couldn't take it anymore

I don’t think Venables should continue to have protection given how he’s acted since release. But it is what it is and it’s for the courts to change that, not random people to name him online. And Mrs Fergus has also said she doesn’t want him to lose his right to anonymity as she doesn’t want “blood on her hands”. But never mind that as long as the baying mob get what they want, under the guise of pretending it’s “justice” for poor James.

bejam I don’t think any of those things. Given he’s pissed his chances of rehabilitation up the wall I absolutely think his life licence should now be revoked and he should be locked up for a very, very long time. He is clearly now a lost cause. But still all the baying for blood makes me feel very uncomfortable.

AnchorDown thanks for helping me understand that prosecution is not supporting that it actually him in the pic.

It's understandable why feelings are still running high. However Tina should've known better I think. In some ways I think it could be hard to be mad at Tina but then I think of the innocent person who almost lost his life.

Speaking as the first person in the thread to raise the possibility that JV's continued behaviour means he should be imprisoned for life to protect the public, I think it's absolutely vital to consider his background and try to understand why rehabilitation hasn't worked.

Absolutely

It’s laughable that people on here are saying they know what he looks like. His physical appreance, like Maxine Carr, has been altered, and will probably keep changing as he gets older.

Maxine Carr, another one who seems to have been disproportionately targeted for hate and vitriol.

sorry but I wouldn't fancy sharing my mug in the staffroom with Maxine Carr.

Tina Malone, who played herself on tv and lost weight . Wow.

Why would Maxine Carr ever be in a staffroom since her conviction? She isn't a murderer however but has had to be given anonymity.

twatty Very few offenders have been given lifelong anonymity. Others will chose to change their name but that’s their own choice.

Malone deserves no sympathy. She deliberately broke the law and is pretending she did it for some sort of public good. She's now using it for her own self publicity.

The men in question should have been protected for as long as they obeyed the law. As soon as they broke the law (for similar reasons, not for a minor driving offence) their right to protection should be taken away. Maybe he should now be publicly identified so that other people will not be mistaken for him.

I have never seen a picture, or alleged picture of him being shared online anywhere. I had no idea they were so common.

Couldn't care less.

I'd not assume public identification would stop other people being mistaken for them. They're white blokes in their late 30s, and they won't have been given particularly unusual new names, for obvious reasons. There'll easily be hundreds of men bearing a passable degree of resemblance to them, and some will be living in the same general area. There'll be men with the same names as them too. And people are extremely stupid.

Nicknacky children who offend are never named in the first place. Many children have committed crimes since James' death. I can think of two different murders in the past couple of years but they drop out of the public consciousness because we never hear the awful details and never have a face to go with them.

The reason Thompson and Venebles NEED life long anonymity is because of the way this was handled in the first place.

The public has an unhealthy obsession with this crime.

Actually let me clarify that. Some child killers are named. Normally older teens and normally some time after the crime has happened, often when they reach adulthood. I know for example Luke Mitchell was named. He killed Jodi Jones when he was 15 but wasn't arrested until he was 17 and the decision was made to name him because in Scotland he could be tried as an adult at that age.

The point is that we fucked up by splashing the pictures of two ten year old boys over the tabloids and naming them directly after they were convicted. People were never able to have that cooling off period. Had they been named 8 years later, I don't think there would have been the same visceral response

I don’t know, the cctv showing that toddler quite happy going off with them still sends shivers down my spine, I don’t think it’s as easy as saying if the public weren’t told the names they wouldn’t be as bothered

Many children have chaotic troubled childhoods and are abused. Doesn’t mean they abduct, abuse and murder a two year old. Stop with the excuses for this despicable pair. They should face the consequences of their action. If they had committed any other crime, for example became armed robbers, society and do-gooders wouldn’t be so understanding would they. Many people must have a vested interest in this pair.

Some of you seem to have a vested interest in anyone who looks like either of these two paying for their crimes. Always assuming the photos are actually them of course, and none of us know whether they are.

Well they wouldn’t be prosecuting her if it wasn’t a photo of him would they? How would that fly? Sorry your Honour, it’s just some random bloke. What law would she have broken?

Yes they very definitely would. Rtft. The key is her intention. The offence doesn't require the photo to actually be of them. But it's good that you've provided yet another example of how people will wrongly assume this means the photos are of them. You're not the first in the thread and i bet you won't be the last.

Although even if it was them, nice to see how little concern you show for those poor unfortunates who happen to look like them.

The same photo was also going round on fb for a little while before being removed, it was shared by hundreds of thousands! The courts would have to hire an arena to put all of those in the dock... personally I think Tina Malone is just being made an example of as she’s a celebrity which when you look at it isn’t really fair? How about the person she retweeted the photo from??

I understand the reason for anonymity, but imagine you get a new neighbour? Or a friend/family member brings home a new boyfriend and you’ve got kids especially little boys? Do you agree that it’s fine for them or especially Venables even more so these days with his record, should keep his anonymity whilst being around your child and family? Would you not feel sick the day you learn you sat beside him eating a Sunday roast a few weeks ago. Even if he worked in your local petrol station, and you’d took change from the same hand which took that poor little boys life. There’s so many scenarios and I for one would want to know if that vile thing was anywhere near involved with my life or anyone else’s really.
Il give Thompson his do’s he’s kept his head down and is making the most of his anonymity but It would still make me sick knowing I’d ever rubbed shoulders with him.

Good points @Flymetothemoon18

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Many children have chaotic troubled childhoods and are abused. Doesn’t mean they abduct, abuse and murder a two year old. Stop with the excuses for this despicable pair. They should face the consequences of their action. If they had committed any other crime, for example became armed robbers, society and do-gooders wouldn’t be so understanding would they. Many people must have a vested interest in this pair.

I am kind of in agreement. I agree that many, many people have 'not great' and even awful childhoods, and don't go on to kill a child. Something is obviously wrong in the head of a child or teen (OR adult) that does this.

However, Robert Thomson was involved with the killing of James Bulger, and since then (25 years,) he has not put a foot wrong, is a model citizen, and has moved on with his life. So despite what he was involved in, I am leaning towards thinking he deserves a second chance at life. The law thought this too.

Jon Venables however has gone on to re-offend, and has been convicted for various 'sex offences' including holding 1000's of child porn images.

That tells me he was the driving force behind Jamie Bulger's abduction and murder.

It was a horrible thing they did, but weirdly, I feel as they were only 10, that Robert Thompson should be left alone now, but Jon Venables should have his knackers chopped off with a blunt razor blade, and then throw into a pen full of lions that haven't eaten for 3 days.

I think Robert Thompson is married with kids now. And his wife doesn't know who he is. (New identity!) Imagine getting married, and having kids with someone, and then finding out he was one of the boys involved in killing James Bulger!

Re Tina Malone; I am not a fan of hers, but I think her being 'summoned to court' is preposterous! 10's of 1000's of people have posted pics of who they think are the Jamie Bulger killers.

re; whether anonymity should be a thing; that is VERY tricky. I don't think pedophiles deserve anonymity, but on the other hand pedophile hunting is a dangerous game, because there are too many mistakes made. As I said; tricky one!