To ask when you're in ICU in a coma, who cleans you?

[LadyandGent]

Is it female for females?

Not necessarily ☹️.

It's nurses for caring

Not necessarily but it would always be two people due to the rolling needed. Ime two men wouldn't routinely be sent but a male and a female would often team up.

Ok thanks.

My mum had male and female but I think you could request but not be guaranteed all female.

Nurses.
Regardless of sex.

Yes as crypto says. Two nurses. Nurses are mostly woman so chances are there will be a woman. Men are usually asked to go to men if they are available due to the lifting and rolling needed.
Patients tend to be done bit by bit rather than one big wash due to tubes, socks and general state of illness

I was in a coma, I wasn't in a position to request anything.

Nurses and carers, if you're in a coma youd have to state your preference before you became ill but they are all there to help you, why are you asking.

Are you asking because of the recent case of the woman in the coma having by a baby?
Saw another one yesterday about a severely disabled girl who has had a baby whilst in a home, and a male member of staff convicted (U.S. I think). I think safeguarding procedures need to be reviewed in every place that houses vulnerable women, especially hospitals.

Regardless of whether they were male or female, I'd just be grateful that the nurses took care of me when I couldn't do it myself.

I may be well wide of the mark in terms of why you ask, but ICU delirium is common after an admission and a common "theme" of the delirium is sexual assault due to the very intimate nature of procedures that may be performed on you whilst in ICU.

Nurses. Whoever happens to be on shift. Not necessarily two, depending on staffing levels. I worked mostly with male patients.

There are a lot of Male carers and nurses in itu, lifting is carried out rarely by staff these days and often requires help from other staff, physios, rolling often takes 3 or 4 staff so it's really whoever is able and free at the time, I wouldn't care as long as I was kept clean and cared for by people who were doing their jobs properly. I don't know if you are allowed to specify Male nurses to carry out lifting and rolling. Itu beds are very sophisticated and some change the patients position automatically.

Are you asking because of the recent case of the woman in the coma having by a baby?
I think safeguarding procedures need to be reviewed in every place that houses vulnerable women, especially hospitals.

I can't speak for every hospital in the uk, but I work in South Wales and every ICU I've been in has been open plan. There are curtains for patient privacy/dignity but only used for attending to personal care and as crypto says there would be two staff members due to rolling or moving an immobile patient.

If you’re in a coma it might be difficult to request! Although some women may prefer female nurses and some men may prefer male nurses, I think in today’s NHS, allowing for severe shortages of staff, patients would be lucky to get two nurses (of any sex) to wash them, but maybe I’m being cynical after decades of cuts, financial deprivation and government targets, which, (in my opinion help nobody), anyway, sorry If I seem to rant, but I am hopeful that the majority of nurses (female and male) are capable of maintaining a professional attitude when caring for patients whichever sex they may be

My dad (and all the other patients in there) had both when he was in ICU they were all amazing- care staff, nurses and doctors. He did suffer badly with hallucinations etc when he came around, he thought he was in a Western- cowboys the lot! Then he thought the SAS were climbing around the outside of the building. But halapeladol (wrong spelling) really helped to calm him down over those next few days.

Multiple nurses. Could be of either sex.

@LizzyBennett yes South Wales here too and ours isn’t open plan

If I'd been in ICU, the gender of the nurse caring for my needs would be the last thing on my mind. I'd be extremely thankful to have been cared for.

I had mostly female nurses but one or two male nurses when I was in ITU and whilst in a coma. I wasn't aware most of the time, but was so ill I was past the point of dignity in my more aware moments. There were always two of them (at least one woman) in the room when anything remotely physical was happening to me.

As a PP said up the thread I had sexual abuse nightmares/delirium amongst the other horrendous topics my brain used to try to figure out what was happening.

I think in today’s NHS, allowing for severe shortages of staff, patients would be lucky to get two nurses (of any sex) to wash them

My very recent experience of ICU units is two dedicated nurses to each patient. Once they progress to HDU its 1 nurse to two patients.

MIL when she went in respite after breaking her hip said that the male nurse washed her better than the female nurses. She also said he saw places her late husband never saw.

My df has been in ICU all this week. We were called in to say our goodbyes on Saturday, thankfully they are transferring him to a standard ward as soon as a bed becomes available.

He was cleaned and cared for by both sexes but predominantly women. Who showed him (and our family) a huge amount of compassion and kindness, and always treated him with dignity and respect so far as we could tell.

If it helps, he was in an open room, similar to a nornal ward but with much large bays and curtains for privacy.

Op, what's worrying you?

Ahh bed bathing is one of my most favourite things to do for my patients.
Truly.
In my unit we do fund raising to find money to buy lovely shower gels, deodorant, shampoos, conditioners, shaving stuff.
There is NOTHING (other than when patients come back and ring the bell and say bye as they are going home well... sob happy tears) more satisfying than clean gown, clean sheets, lovely clean hair and nice fresh skin.
It’s so important and I consider it to be “proper basic loving care” that I came into nursing to do.
I bloody love it I do 😊