to think that Eddie Izzard is

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just another rich person trying to persuade poor people to give their hard earned money to other poor people? I've just seen him on one of these tv ads guilt tripping people into donating to a worthy cause. Whilst I can understand and sympathise with the people who need money, I can't help but think it would be better if the said Eddie Izzard put his hand in his own pocket first. rather than flouncing around in full make up and nail varnish trying to be a politician

I know - I'm totally U, aren't I?

What's his fall from grace about?

YANBU.

Him and Bono et al should pay their taxes and volunteer to pay some more and then put some effort into actual helping rather than fund raising virtue signalling. Then they should shut up unless they're doing what they're good at and paid exorbitantly huge sums for.

They could all learn a lot from George Michael.

What's the point in blaming the celebrities?

Clearly charities wouldn't create celebrity-led campaigns unless it was one of the best ways to encourage donations.

Maybe roll your eyes at people who will only donate to a charity if some famous person tells them to.

Oh dear, some people just can't do right can they. I think all this invective is becasue of his stance on trans issues. Leave them alone for goodness sake.

Leave them alone for goodness sake

Who? The same could be said to him: leave women and girls alone.

And what does him flouncing around in full makeup and nail varnish matter?

I bet he'd say it was his 'boy genes' that run the marathons and his 'girl genes' that like makeup & nail varnish (and I've raised about £4,000 for good causes by running, if that makes any difference).

I had a lot of respect for Eddie Izzard when he described his dresses as 'man's clothes - they're mine, I bought them.' When he decided to start promoting misogynist gender stereotypes by claiming that liking dresses, heels & make up made him part girl, plus sharing that story about him bullying teenage girls, all respect vanished. If he had any respect for women & girls at all he wouldn't be talking such bollocks.

Not seen the ad, but he does a lot for charity and with a TV ad surely the viewers could have wide variety of incomes.

I've more issue with the chuggers that go round neighborhoods known to be low income & guilt people to sign up to direct debit donations.

Why is he a knob? (genuine question)
Umm it's lady knob. And getting this stuff wrong could see you 're educated.

Well that post about UNICEF was an eloquent demonstration of why referendums about international organisations are a bad idea.

I think all this invective is becasue of his stance on trans issues.

Yup. He went from what appeared to be a principled stance: “these aren’t women’s clothes, they’re my clothes” to the man who obviously still thinks those clothes gave him a right to invade women’s toilets.

Quite the reversal of what he’d always presented himself as, which was a decent man who enjoyed wearing clothes more normally associated with women.

Gosh, I think that's most celebrities. What about the Beckhams with all their wealth, they could stop world famine, or go a long way to helping. But no, ask the rif raf, poor, let them be charitable. It gets on my nerves.
my dh saw TW start a collection for CIN, he was playing in the band, for nothing, TW was on 14k for the programme, twenty years ago.
He put in £20 to start it off, sent it round all the staff and people working for nothing, when it came back he took his £20 out again, I kid you not.
Absolutely despicable, he couldn't believe it.

I think there’s something odd going on with EI. He was a massive star and the marathons were a huge achievement. Yet he doesn’t have the public profile he used to have and the marathons didn’t get the coverage I would have expected. It’s not the trans bullshit stuff because the media - especially the BBC - cannot get enough of men like this. So I don’t know what’s happened.

I’m sad in a way as I loved him back in the day and if he wanted to explore the boundaries of masculinity I’d be all in favour. Instead he seems to be quite obnoxious to girls. Something is up imho.

I've more issue with the chuggers that go round neighborhoods known to be low income & guilt people to sign up to direct debit donations

For many young people now, these are the only kind of jobs available if you leave school without the qualifications or desire to go to university. They’re generally poorly paid and insecure. The person I know who does this would get sacked if he failed to get a certain number of sign-ups in any given week and he’s worked for them for two years.

I don’t blame those doing these jobs. I blame the companies they work for and the government who fail to set rules about how charities collect money.

UNICEF used to be famous for spending most of their charity money on admin and flying people around the world to "help" in first class. Generally speaking I'm put off donating to big charities that have celeb endorsements and to adverts.

I think chuggers should be banned. In this day and age with all the bank fraud/scams going on why on earth are supposedly reputable organisations encouraging people to hand their bank details over to a stranger? I love it when I see an old fashioned collecting bucket and make a point of telling the collectors that I'm glad they're not trying to sign people up to anything.

We're getting warnings and suspensions on the feminist mumsnet board for using pronouns like 'he' and using the term 'man' for people such as Eddie Izzard! Because -he- oops this is hard to keep straight, they, sometimes identify as a woman. Not when they are doing masculine shit obvs, just when they talk about things like all women shortlists.

Meant to cross out he after I accidentally typed it

Pronoun because I understand they have identified as transgender however felt using "she" on a thread where many people seem unaware of that would cause confusion.

Therefore went with "they" out of respect for the person whilst trying not to confuse other posters.

I dislike seeing any celebs pushing for charity donations unless there's a statement saying they are donating their time for free (and there very rarely is)

Person raises a fortune for charity and gets slated because a vocal group on Mumsnet will leap at any chance to attack someone's gender variance.

Jeremy Irons is doing the adverts too. For me it is any celebrity really, unless they are actually organizing the campaign.

Person raises a fortune for charity and gets slated because a vocal group on Mumsnet will leap at any chance to attack someone's gender variance

bemoan that person for not bankrupting themselves in the process