to think that Eddie Izzard is

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just another rich person trying to persuade poor people to give their hard earned money to other poor people? I've just seen him on one of these tv ads guilt tripping people into donating to a worthy cause. Whilst I can understand and sympathise with the people who need money, I can't help but think it would be better if the said Eddie Izzard put his hand in his own pocket first. rather than flouncing around in full make up and nail varnish trying to be a politician

I know - I'm totally U, aren't I?

Nottonight

The 13yo girls from the toilet ‘confronted’ him about his maleness. He says

“I think that was the first time I was overtly intimidated because of my sexuality.”

Fuck you. You were a grown man in the women’s toilets. They had every right to fucking question you.

So you think 13 year old girls are bullies for hassling a man in a women's public toilet? Jesus wept Bluelady

She is not saying that...

She is saying the girls were NOT bullies... it's just the way she's worded it.

Actually I was saying they were bullies. I don't subscribe to the women are saints and men are bastards at all times school of thought. Flame me all you like, I won't be coming back to see it.

That’s how I read it Tom, but it could be taken either way, I think.

Oh righty-ho

I won't be coming back to see it.

Well thank god for that. The last thing we need is someone so ghastly they call 13 YEAR OLD GIRLS bullies for chasing a man out of their toilets after HE GOT CHANGED IN THEM. What kind of demented person thinks the girls are bullied?!

Fucking hell

Not sure what age he was when that incident took place, it's not clear in the extract, but seemed to be very early on.

Well I'm glad I wasn't wrong about you.

Saying that girls asserting their boundaries are bullies is very dangerous. It has nothing to do with thinking all women are saints.

I don't subscribe to the women are saints and men are bastards at all times school of thought.

GIRLS not women. Fucking girls

There is something about the way he dresses that I just find offensive. I don’t have an issue with anyone who feels they are the wrong gender. I just find his getup offensive. It’s like as if he’s trying to take the piss out of us. I think he’s good in films when he’s not dressed as a woman. As he gets older he just looks like Diedre Barlow.

He says he was 23 in the article. An adult man

Fair enough - benefit of doubt no longer required!
Hard to picture 13 year old girls being the bullies when discovering a TV in their midst what sounds like about 30 years ago.

35 years ago, I and most of my friends would have been quite unsure about a gay man. We'd have been teens too and back then being gay was quite a big deal, especially at the height of the AIDS fear.
So I'd say a TV would be a hell of a shock to young girls.

Do you really need to take such an abusive tone AldiLidlDeeDee ?

I take your point OP, and in light of the recent scandals around charities and NGO's, it does feel problematic seeing wealthy celeb's asking us to dig deeper into our pockets. Personally, before I donate to any charity I like to see the public accounts and what percentage of the donated monies actually reaches the recipients, one is often surprised at how little it can be.

That said, I can't find fault with Izzard for his charity work.

However if you have some time to kill, find his referendum debate against Daniel Hannan. Simultaneously funny and cringe-inducing.

I feel this way about Gary Barlow - odious little man, on the take, making thousands of pounds an hour for writing some pretty naff songs and rubbing elbows with royalty at various hobnobbing charity gatherings but can't actually sort out paying proper tax! Makes my blood boil when he's then on CiN or Comic Relief!

A probably not very convincing TV in a place where they absolutely would not expect to find him, too. In fact, the TV stuff is a red herring. Regardless of his attire, he was a man in an intimate female only space. Even if they were gobby little whatnots, they would likely still have been taken aback. He shouldn’t have been there.

His done numerous marathons for charity in the last few years and I'm sure he does support the charity he is currently endorsing.
Nobody knows anything ( unless they know the person personally or has access to their bank accounts!) so I could be wrong but his certainly done his bit in the recent past.
I do understand where your coming from but in this case I think your wrong to pick on him. I agree some other celebs may just do this type of thing ' to look good' etc but I don't think he does.

Come back to the thread OP and answer some of the points raised.

Eddie Izzard raised over £1 million for Sport Relief in 2016 running 27 marathons in 27 days. At the age of 54. He did 2 on the last day.

I think that's pretty fucking amazing, regardless of the gender politics.

He says he was 23 in the article. An adult man
Indeed, just seen it towards the end of the article (I was looking at the start, thinking he'd set the scene about his age there).

Speaking of comic relief, Iamthere, have you seen the labour exploitation stuff surrounding their t-shirts? The ‘gender justice’ t-shirts being produced in factories using slave labour. It’s a grubby old world.

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/20/spice-girls-comic-relief-tshirts-made-bangladesh-factory-paying-staff-35p-an-hour

Guardian link

WeBuilt, Unicef isn't the United Nations, it was created by the UN in 1946 to help protect children after World War 2. Nowadays the basic tenets are those set out in the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child. If they didn't fundraise, they wouldn't exist, and there would be thousands more children dying every year.

Have you ever noticed girls are children until they upset a man?

Hi folks

Just popping by to ask that this remains civil - we don't want to have to delete the thread.

IME people who whinge about celebrity fundraisers invariably do little or nothing for charities themselves. I get the distinct impression that their beef with them is that they get publicity and therefore provide inconvenient reminders that there are an awful lot of people out there who are in absolutely horrendous circumstances, and therefore the publicity makes the whingers feel a bit uncomfortable. So they get over the awful feeling by trying to blame the fundraiser. It's oh so easy to say Eddie Izzare/Lenny Henry/ Olivia Coleman should give 5 or 10 or 20% of their earnings, but the complainers go very quiet when asked whether they are doing that themselves.