To wonder how much Mrs Hinch spends in the average day?

[grinchypants]

I'm on maternity leave now and have no life so I'm noticing all kinds of busybody things like the next door neighbours leaving their front door wide open all night and shit like that.

I've seen some of Mrs hinch on insta today.
Cleaning and motivational yada yadas alright if you don't mind the amount of chemicals & fumes but by god is most of it not just daily updates of "bought this" "swipe up for the link to these I bought"

I'm not cheap by any means but who buys so much crap each day, like her house isn't that big, and I'm sat wondering what she's done with all of last weeks storage boxes and shite because I have no life

Does she donate it all? Is it all gifted? Nobody can keep up with that much shopping for one household.

I'm on my own here aren't I?

[Gigglebrain]

I have not watched Mrs Hinch, have no idea how she sounds, what she looks like etc, so I have nothing against her personally, and am not jealous of her. However, I do have something against someone who encourages people to use products that damage the environment. We all have a responsibility to do what we can to minimise the damage we cause, and every little thing we do can help, and all the little things we don't do can harm.

[Gigglebrain]

Also, she's got dogs, how is she not using cruelty free? Would she squirt bleach in her own dogs eyes?

[grinchypants]

@Calvinsmam you're right, but she could potentially dent that. People were going nuts over those bloody minke things going out of stock when she got popular and zoflora has rocketed in popularity even with warnings about the fact it kills marine life, many people don't even think, it's just "I'm told to pour it down my sink so I will".
Think of the affect she could have on supply and demand for products like Eco coconuts. It's quite sad to think the effect somebody could have, but won't, whatever the reasons.

[GlitterStick]

WTF, Gigglebrain?

[Gigglebrain]

@Glitterstick@
Ok, maybe I'm being very a bit over dramatic, but I just don't get why people still use products that are tested on animals, when there are so many good alternatives out there. It's barbaric!

[Calvinsmam]

Sorry I didn’t explain what I meant by ‘people don’t but as many’

One of the side effects of starting to think about your ecological impact is that you naturally start buying less of what you do buy and start thinking about what is it you actually need.
Even if she did a ‘use up what you already have in the cupboards’ drive but she won’t because her business is based off affiliate sales so she is deliberately getting people to buy more products so she makes more money.
She is driving people (mostly women and mostly women who aren’t rich to begin with) to buy stuff they don’t actually need. That’s not just her, that’s the nature of marketing but I won’t be holding my breath for her to start backing more eco options.

The idea that she’s just a harmless little woman cleaning her home and the only reason people might have an issue is because they are snobs or bullies is laughable though.
She obviously has a HUGE pr machine behind her, which I have no issue with at all but let’s call a spade a spade, she’s just there to sell products.

[Schmoobarb]

I’m not really a fan although she seems a nice enough girl but yes the amount of stuff she uses is ridiculous.

I hadn’t known she was having a baby though, that’s nice.

[DonCorleoneTheThird]

So the haters are just employees from the PR companies posting nasty things to a) give her more publicity b) make her more sympathetic to regular readers? Clever!

[Ladyoftheloch]

the only reason people might have an issue is because they are snobs or bullies is laughable though.

I didn’t say it was the only reason but I absolutely maintain that it’s a huge part of it.

You won’t convince me that the (hundreds of) posts about her accent, her hair extensions, her false nails, her grey house, her talent, her intelligence, her spending habits, her expressions and her eyelashes have nothing to do with class prejudice and snobbery.

[Calvinsmam]

And where are these hundreds of posts about those thing on this thread?
Yeah some people are saying they don’t like her grey house but that’s it, the rest are genuine concerns about the environment and her mixing chemicals.

[grinchypants]

That's not what this thread is about at all though. It's just conversation. How is it snobbery. Nobody has mentioned her Accent, her extensions, her talent, her false nails?, I don't really understand what your point is there? Leave this lady alone and don't be a snob making comments about things that actually only I'm bringing up?

I mean I know there have been a few comments about her dog but you're making a real meal out of nothing here.

Just because people are discussing an Instagram account doesn't mean they are out to tear a person to bits. I can form my own balanced opinion by myself.

[grinchypants]

And I still don't know anymore about this Monica closet

[Calvinsmam]

The environmental trolling is a red herring - it’s the socially acceptable way of dressing up dislike for Mrs Hinch. If you actually admit that you think she’s common, talentless, stupid, mouthy etc then your comment will rightly be deleted (as the poster’s above was).

See you’re doing something really unfair here, you’re putting words in our mouths.

Saying that because we can’t say what we really mean we are just pretending to be annoyed about the environment, but when we say we’re concerned about the environment it’s code for us thinking she’s ‘common, talentless and mouthy’
When actually I don’t think any of those things, and you can’t accuse people of being snobby bullies for things you are mind reading through the internet.

[Calvinsmam]

And as a working class person I find it extremely patronising and snobby to imply only middle class people can care about the environment.

Not going out of your way to buy disinfectant that kills marine life, to literally pour down your drains in order to create a synthetic smell in your kitchen for ten minutes is a pretty low bar, and is hardly an out of reach goal for anyone.

Can you actually imagine looking your grandchildren in the face and explaining that you used to pour zoflora into the water supply simply to create a pleasant smell.

[Ladyoftheloch]

I couldn’t have made it clearer that I’m talking about the cumulative tide created by the many threads about Mrs Hinch on Mumsnet - although on this one there are comments asking why she’s famous when all she does is clean, comments about how what she is doing is bad for her baby, comments about her grey house, comments about cheap tat. You may not have seen the content of the post that was deleted - I won’t repeat it, but it was foul.

You cannot pretend the context of these comments doesn’t exist. Or rather, you can - but I will consider you to be wilfully disingenuous. Let’s not pretend we’re too stupid to understand that making fun of someone’s accent (which happened on this thread) is coded classism, or that commenting on her appearance in the terms people do isn’t sneering at her for following a particular trend.

I have never suggested that only middle class people care about the environment and don’t know where you got that idea from.

[GlitterStick]

Nobody has mentioned her Accent, her extensions, her talent, her false nails?, I don't really understand what your point is there?

Er,are you new to these threads or pretending you can't see them?
There's been several posts (now deleted) of personal stuff like her looks, how liking cleaning means you're unintelligent, stupid for letting down the sisterhood in a patriarchal world bollocks, etc just for starters.
You can pretend it's about environment concerns all you like but it's more than that. It's a chance for some to bitch and put down others.

[joanmcc]

Funny how her cultists fans spend longer defending her than actually cleaning

[grinchypants]

@GlitterStick if I wasnt new to them or had seen them then I probably wouldn't have started another.

[grinchypants]

@GlitterStick it's not at all a chance to bitch or put down others. That's what you're doing coming on a thread and creating a rhetoric motive that isn't there.

It's a few mums talking about an Instagram account who have also mentioned environmental impact. It's not an attack on another human being.

[Ladyoftheloch]

Who gives a fuck if anyone is cleaning? I don’t follow her, and I hate cleaning so I pay for a cleaner.

But I’m also going to call out class prejudice when I see it, and I don’t really give a shit if people call me a cultist, or become defensive, or gaslight me by denying that the posts I can see with my own eyes exist. I would rather that than be complicit in something I disagree with. And when it comes to prejudice, silence is complicity.

Those people claiming to have valid concerns about the environment etc. could express those concerns and still condemn the classism. Don’t you think it’s telling that instead they would rather pretend it doesn’t exist?

I would have plenty of respect for the self-proclaimed environmentalists if alongside their comments about zoflora they also pulled up other posters for making snide comments about dropped Hs and grey decor. But that doesn’t happen. And if you aren’t challenging prejudice where you see it, you’ve chosen your side whether you meant to or not.

[GlitterStick]

It's a few mums talking about an Instagram account who have also mentioned environmental impact. It's not an attack on another human being

Sorry, but come off it. Surely you're seeing the personal attacks too? You must be being wilfully obtuse.

[grinchypants]

Call out class prejudice if you like, but do it on a thread that actually has it.

I shouldn't have to go and search Mumsnet for other Mrs hinch threads to jusitfy why you've jumped on my thread and called out class prejudice when it's not relevant.

[grinchypants]

I would have plenty of respect for the self-proclaimed environmentalists if alongside their comments about zoflora they also pulled up other posters for making snide comments about dropped Hs and grey decor. But that doesn’t happen. And if you aren’t challenging prejudice where you see it, you’ve chosen your side whether you meant to or not.

Erm so for ignoring some comments about people not liking her grey decor and calling it boring, and not challenging it, that makes me just as prejudice?

Come off it, how do you manage work or the school run challenging everybodies opinion on every little tiny thing.

If you think class prejudice exists on other threads then that's a fine opinion to have, what's not fine is coming on a thread where that isn't the case and trying to inform me what my opinions are.

Maybe you need to differentiate between when people are being actually prejudice and when they are just making conversation and commenting on a topic or person in general terms. There's a massive difference and it doesn't make me prejudice for not challenging every person I come across.

[grinchypants]

@GlitterStick
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Sorry but come off it. Surely you're seeing the personal attacks too! You must be being wilfully obtuse?
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Must I really? I didn't realise that ignoring a few comments about posters thinking her grey decor was boring makes me obtuse as a person? I saw a poster bringing up this ladies looks, voice, talent & nails among other things and I questioned it. Is that being obtuse? Or is that just a grown woman short of adult conversation on Mumsnet a bit shocked at the ridiculousness that comes up when you try and discuss something that's obviously popular on other platforms.

[Ladyoftheloch]

yes the whole thing with her 'first baby 'enry 'inch' is really annoying. I suspect 'enry's 'wet nose' is going to be very much out of joint when the actual baby arrives.

She looked lovely before all the filters, fillers and fakery

I'd never heard of her either. Just looked on Instagram and oh my that is a lot of grey and crushed velvet. So she's famous for keeping her house clean? What a time to be alive

I just looked her up as I'd never heard of her before. Her style is very boring and run of the mill. Her house looks like a million other houses. How did she get 1.6 million followers? Did she buy them all?

She just seems to purchase endless streams of cheap tat

I was just wondering why she was getting so much attention and followers? Cleaning and having a mediocre grey home, is that what makes you famous these days??

Every single one of these comments is on this thread. Every single one. Not to mention the deleted one, which was up for long enough for you to have seen it because you commented again before it was taken down.

I will not accept anyone pretending they can’t see the sneering classism and snobbery in these posts. And I firmly believe that if you don’t challenge prejudice where you see it, you are complicit in it.