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Prince Philip back on the road

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Widgeon · 19/01/2019 19:53

I'm annoyed to read that he allegedly has a brand new Range Rover bad is back on public roads without a seatbelt today.

With elderly parents I know it's difficult but he's being a fool. OP post edited by MNHQ

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Craft1905 · 20/01/2019 09:23

Nothing wrong with a Range Rover, my husband has driven one for years, they are good solid cars - but not for a 97 year old.

Just as fucking well he fucking hasn't fucking got a fucking Range fucking Rover then.

FFS!!!!!!!!!!

No Range Rovers were harmed in the making of this accident.

SaturdayNext · 20/01/2019 09:43

"He can barely see over the wheel", Squeekums - really? Has he somehow lost a couple of feet in height?

SaturdayNext · 20/01/2019 09:46

Whether we like it or not, the RF is beyond any reproach and will never have to appear before the beak

But they have! Princess Anne for one.

Haveheart · 20/01/2019 09:52

Schmoobarb · 20/01/2019 09:55

The accident circumstances are well know and not disputed. He pulled out of a minor B road into the path of another car on a major A road. 100% his fault.

Yep absolutely his fault unless proven otherwise. The other driver has right of way.

Craft1905 · 20/01/2019 10:03

"He can barely see over the wheel", Squeekums - really? Has he somehow lost a couple of feet in height?

Yes, it's a well know fact. Even if you're 6'3, as you get older, you shrink, so at 97 you end up at 4'6.

Prince Philip now buys all his cloths from children's shops, and is size "aged 8-9".

StarlightIntheNight · 20/01/2019 10:05

He is incredibly selfish to be driving again. He has drivers and does not need to put others lives at risk by driving. I highly doubt he has taken the same road tests that other normal people have to take. He is putting other people's lives at risk. SELFISH!

Riotingbananas · 20/01/2019 10:47

He showed concern for the people in the other car

Jolly good. As did the elderly man who wrote my car off as he hit me by driving at me on the wrong side of the road.

My DM and DFiL both had cars covered in bumps from hitting assorted things. Luckily my DM stopped of her own accord, we had to get DFiL stopped.

People's reflexes and eyesight deteriorate as we get older, that's a fact. That will make us less capable drivers. The accident rate really increases for over 80s and as I've said before, god knows what it is for over 90s.

Philip doesnt face the difficulties most elderly people do when they give up driving. He's hardly going to be fretting about the No. 19 bus service to Kings Lynn being withdrawn is he.

worridmum · 20/01/2019 10:54

We do not know the cause of the accident for all we know the woman that crashed into him was in the wrong, speeding? Texting while driving? not paying attention.

We are all focusing upon his age and thinking that the key factor here, if she crashed into him its more likely then NOT she is responsible here and until we have more details. We should refrine from judgement.

Would you be up in arms if it turns out she was responable for the accident and would you campaign for all woman (her age/ all people her age) to have mandotory testing ? Or would you say i am perfectly able to drive do not judge me / cost me tons of money due to 1 persons laspe in judgement (if the woman involved was the responsible driver)

Whisky2014 · 20/01/2019 11:16

Wow, ageism is rife on here.

Riotingbananas · 20/01/2019 11:18

Worrid it's a fact that elderly drivers become more dangerous. I wouldn't be campaigning for women of the other driver's age to have mandatory testing because being the age she is does not add any risks to the likelihood of her causing an accident. If she was texting, she would be very much in the wrong, and you just have to look at the number of campaigns which have been run to address that particular risk.

As for the accident itself, as it appears she was on the main road and he was pulling out, the only scenario really is that either she was going so fast that it was impossible for him to be aware of her imminent presence, or he pulled out when he shouldn't have. Bearing in mind he apologised at the scene and apparently told the police that the sun had dazzled him, the latter may appear more likely.

And as for driving without a seat belt a couple of days later, that just shows the arrogance of the man and I'm glad the police have spoken to him about it.

Riotingbananas · 20/01/2019 11:20

This isnt ageism. I've called out ageism on Mumsnet many times pre name change. It's about risk. Elderly drivers and young drivers are the most dangerous on the road.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/01/2019 11:24

Safety comes first, before any isms, and it isen't ageism to say the Prince Phillip is not safe on the road, it is quite obvious his reactions are slower. What next, he could kill somebody. I would say that about a younger driver too, so just because he is the Queens husband, we cannot say the truth.

Whisky2014 · 20/01/2019 11:25

Yes, it is ageism...

Aeroflotgirl · 20/01/2019 11:27

It is a fact, that as you get older, and Prince Phillip is 97, your reactions are slower. I was watching a documentary on drivers who were extremely elderly, one pulled out in front of an articulated lorry from a side road, another was veering all over the place. Safety comes first, when you get behind that wheel you have the potential to kill.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/01/2019 11:27

No it isen't Whisky don't be so silly!

Aeroflotgirl · 20/01/2019 11:30

I say that at the opposite end of the scale too, 17 is far too young to be driving a car, and the younger age bracket are also most likely to have an accident. Prince Phillip failing to see oncoming cars and pulling out without seeing or looking properly caused a collision which could have ended fatally. That is not ageism it is a fact, quite possibly, his age has something to do with it. He could quite possibly have dementia, who knows.

Whisky2014 · 20/01/2019 11:33

Eh yes it is. Posters are discriminating against him because of his age. That is the definition of ageism!

Bluelady · 20/01/2019 11:41

Whoever Googled the weather might like to know that I was dazzled by the sun at 3.30 on Thursday afternoon. Everyone driving on the stretch of road I was on - also in East Anglia - slowed down to about 20 mph because none of us could see a fucking thing.

birdsdestiny · 20/01/2019 11:46

It is important we can describe risk without accusations being flung at us. Young men are high risk drivers, older drivers present different risks, we can pretend either of these aren't the case if it makes people feel better but it won't help safety on the road.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/01/2019 11:50

Whisky that could have been fatal! I think you are totally missing the point. If that was Joe bloggs who was 97, I betcha, he would have been read his rights and accompanied to the station, points on his licence, but because it is Prince Phillip, totally different.

Schmoobarb · 20/01/2019 11:50

Eh yes it is. Posters are discriminating against him because of his age. That is the definition of ageism!

Even if it is, age discrimination can be objectively justified in some circumstances, unlike other forms of discrimination. Have a google.

Whisky2014 · 20/01/2019 11:51

Birds posts like 97 is too old to be driving is ageism. Mnhq have started deleting the posts which break talk guidelines.

Whisky2014 · 20/01/2019 11:54

You can deny it all you like but it is ageism.

Anyway, my thoughts are: if he is deemed fit and able to drive he should continue to. Am i the person to seem him fit and able? No. I'll leave that to the experts.

People have and will continue to die on roads, its inevitable. Would we say anyone who is the cause of the crash should be deemed unfit to drive? No. So why should we to him? It was an accident... i hardly think he intended on pulling out in front of a car.

birdsdestiny · 20/01/2019 11:54

Jolly good. The ones that break guidelines will be deleted and the rest will remain. My point being discussing age related risk is not ageism.

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