To be furious over what has just happened?

[DippyDiplodocus]

Out Walking our dogs and my 6 month old baby in carrier. I have four dogs and look after one of my friend's dogs while she's at work occasionally. My four are quite large, the biggest being big German shepherd size and the smallest is a pug (friend's dog).

Before I get flamed for having too many dogs, two were mine, two my DH's before we met, so obviously we now have four. We aren't the kind of people to get rid of dogs just because we had a child - dogs are family too and we treat them as such.

We live in the countryside, very quiet rural area.
Coming to the end of our walk over the fields (where I never usually see any other walkers) I see another dog approaching - muzzled Siberian husky with a bloke.
At this point I already have four on leads ready for the road back to our house and bent down squat position to put pug on a lead.

I thought man would stop when he saw me bent down but he carried on approaching. I was struggling to get wriggly pug back on lead so I called out to him "can you just wait there a sec so I can get this one on the lead?" - No response and continues towards us.

Still trying to get dog on lead and my dogs are now getting a bit twitchy and unsettled that this bloke is approaching them, so one of mine barks.
Just to add here, our dogs are all very well behaved but they are protective over me and DD and will act accordingly if they feel threatened.

Man takes no notice, I call out again and say "can you just give me a second?" Ignores me completely.

He decides to squeeze by my dogs and I with a stupid smirk on his face. He can clearly see I'm struggling and baby is now crying and the others are pissed off. One of mine pulled forward and I dug my heels in and sat back so as not to land on my daughter.

I shouted at him and called him a fucking arsehole.

If he could have waited one second, I'd have been out the way and that wouldn't have had to have happened.

FFS I just despise people at times.

As a mother I just can't imagine setting out with 5 dogs, 4 of which are strong enough on their own to pull me over. And to have a tiny vulnerable baby strapped to my front, where my body weight is going to come down should the dogs bolt.

It's like going skateboarding with a baby in a sling, and complaining when a rude teenager won't move his bag and I fell over it!?

Such utter, utter entitlement. "How dare someone not obey my commands in public?"

You should learn to control your dogs before you try to control other humans.

No I have not tried I would not be so stupid

"I have 12 children, and only 2 car seats. I drive in my village, with my kids climbing all over the car, putting me off etc. Because they are so unruly, I don't look at junctions but it's obvious that I can't because the kids are blocking my view! I use my hazards, so other drivers should avoid me!
AIBU?"

He was rude and inconsiderate.
But Jeeze that is too many dogs and combined with a baby just no.

I think you were more at fault.

I agree that he was rude and inconsiderate but I do think you have to be able to control your dogs even in the event of people walking past with their dogs. What if someone didn't speak English or just didn't want to wait for you?

@DippyDiplodocus this is not the way I saw this post go when I read your OP. I think the guy should have given you 10s I would have whether I was wearing headphones or not. If I see a dog on a lead or muzzled I get my dog on a lead too.

I do think it might be an idea to stop waking the Pug sorry. I think with 4 and a baby it is very difficult but adding the size differential and the fact it’s not your dog might make the situation less predictable and maybe uncontrollable. Sorry.

I have one gorgeous dog and would love a couple more, but it has its pitfalls. Take care op.

Walking not waking

I’d be saying to your friend my own 4 dogs are enough to manage or walking the dogs in 2 groups of 3 or 2 to get myself to a position where I could easily manage. We own big dogs.

YABU. I can just imagine that random strangers version of events - "was out walking my dog this morning, listening to music, minding my own business, when this madwoman carrying a small baby in a sling and failing to keep 5 dogs under control started to hurl abuse at me". I know whose story I'd side with!

I have a baby and walk my big dog with her in a sling,

Dog. In the singular. Not five fucking dogS.

I hope you didn't really swear at someone when you were carrying your child... what if they (wrongly obviously) attacked you?

I don’t even get what the problem was That you had to bend over to put a lead on the pug? That you had to pull on the bigger dog’s lead for a few seconds so you didn’t fall forward onto your baby? Was this man or his dog frightening to you or your baby or dogs?

What harm/problem/issue/inconvenience are you actually complaining about?

It sounds to me like you were just pissed off that someone made you do something when you were out walking some dogs!

*What if your dogs had set upon this man? You wouldn't have been able to do a damn thing.
But they didn't, did they? Because they were under control, on leads. *

No they weren't - you already said one nearly pulled you over and you couldn't get the lead on another so 50% were not under control and 25% were not on a lead.

What if your dogs had set upon this man?

His smirking penis would have been to blame no doubt.

OP: AIBU?

MN: yes

OP: but, but but.....

MN: YABU

OP: hmph, I don't think I am

"I shouted at him and called him a fucking arsehole."

And in the next cheeky fucker thread we'll all be wondering what sort of person engages in such obnoxious behaviour in public with their children present.

5 dogs, at least one of a decent size, plus a baby in a carrier - too much IMO.
I get not rehoming your dogs but consider staggered walks and stop walking the 5th?

His smirking penis would have been to blame no doubt.

so 50% were not under control and 25% were not on a lead.

To be fair, 20% were not on a lead, and 50% were not under control.

Ups, 40% were not under control.

OP: hmph, I don't think I am

Also OP: why are you getting upset?
(Translation: I’m projecting)

On a side note, OP:

Sort out your quotes, please. Either one each side of the quote to make bold*, as per MN tradition, or at least use the " ".

Your posts are increasingly difficult to read.

Yeah, sorry. YABU. He's done nothing wrong. Not his fault your dog pulled you over. He was just walking his dog. Chill out and have a brew.

If he spoke English and was sound of hearing then I think any decent, courteous person would have held back a moment. There are very few perfectly trained, non reactive in all situation dogs out there so a bit of give and take from other dog walkers is always appreciated.

My dog is lovely off lead but reactive on lead, we avoid hidden corners and alley ways as much as possible but on occasion I have had to say "sorry he's fearful on lead" and people have ALWAYS given us some space or hung back. Doesn't happen often as I plan our walks and locations carefully. We work on his training everyday but some behaviours are harder to train than others.