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To find it annoying how Kate (Duchess of Cambridge) is referred to as Catherine?

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Dongdingdong · 12/01/2019 13:17

I read an interview with James Middleton today in which he referred to his sister as Catherine rather than Kate. Prince William also calls her Catherine in interviews.

I don't know why, but I find it mildly grating that since she got together with Prince William, her family and friends have suddenly begun referring to her by a different, longer version of her first name - especially when they presumably always called her Kate before, still do in private and everybody else refers to her as Kate anyway.

It just seems very contrived and a little pretentious or something I suppose. AIBU to wonder why Prince William and her family can't just call her Kate in public?

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Laiste · 12/01/2019 15:16

My dad's name was Harry but everyone called him George.
My grandmothers name was Ellen but everyone called her Angnes.
My Dh's nan was something and everyone called her something else (can't remember)
His dad's name isn't Sean but we call him that.

It's quite common thinking about it Grin

And if Charles becomes King he's going to be called something else isn't he?

Laiste · 12/01/2019 15:18

One of my daughters has a nick name which, if she ever married a King, i'd hope she'd drop as well Grin

You didn't answer my question about weather you think Queen Kylie sounds regal OP.

Dongdingdong · 12/01/2019 15:18

And if Charles becomes King he's going to be called something else isn't he?

George according to one poster and Albert according to another!

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Dongdingdong · 12/01/2019 15:20

You didn't answer my question about weather you think Queen Kylie sounds regal OP.

Not in the traditional sense it doesn’t, no. But what would be so wrong with a Queen Kylie? I don’t see why everyone has to be Edward, Charles, Victoria etc.

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fibonaccisequins · 12/01/2019 15:21

I share a name with her (no, I'm not Catherine/Kate Middleton despite her being on mumsnet) I'm known by many forms of my name - Catherine, Katie, Cath, Kate, Cathy, Cat, C, Reenie (once only Hmm) and by different people. DH calls me whatever he likes, and similarly I call him shortened forms of his name, but I also use his full name. My family and official documents use my full name, but other than that I don't care what people call me. Perhaps she just doesn't care, and answers to anything. Lots of people with longer names do. My DC have 3 syllable names too, and they have at least 6 nicknames each. They answer to them all.

OscarsWild · 12/01/2019 15:22

Aren't there some shops out there that need you today?
The High Stis dying.

Forget Amazon it's bloody MN that's to blame.

MoonSafarix · 12/01/2019 15:23

Not getting wound up about it, but Prince William did call her Kate in their engagement interview with the press so it rolled of his tongue naturally to call her Kate at that point. given that, I do think it's a little bit affected but who cares.

Laiste · 12/01/2019 15:25

Not in the traditional sense it doesn’t, no.

Well there you have it. The monarchy is built on tradition. Their survival relies upon people believing that tradition is important.

I'd abolish the lot of them. And honestly if we had to bow and scrape to a 'Queen Kylie' i imagine it would lead more people to see the stupidity of it all.

Weetabixandshreddies · 12/01/2019 15:27

I, and the family, always call my son by his long name. His friends and work colleagues use a shortened version.

I don't get the confusion that people use different versions of their name in different situations.

SauvignonMum · 12/01/2019 15:28

Did he MoonSafarix? So I didn't dream it.

Well then, I agree with the OP

Dongdingdong · 12/01/2019 15:28

Well there you have it. The monarchy is built on tradition. Their survival relies upon people believing that tradition is important.

That’s true Laiste - good point!

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Dongdingdong · 12/01/2019 15:29

Did he MoonSafarix? So I didn't dream it.

He did indeed @SauvignonMum - I just watched it on YouTube! Grin

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Iwantdaffodils · 12/01/2019 15:30

Nearly everyone I know is called by their full name by family. The shortened forms have started at school, university or work.

Colleagues started to call me by the shortened version of my name to avoid confusion with another member of staff, and it stuck. I have to remember when emailing or sending a card which name they know me by. I never introduce myself with the shortened form though. Nothing pretentious about it.

Myusernameisunique · 12/01/2019 15:31

Maybe they call her Catherine though? My mum has her Christian name which my gran, grandad, brothers, aunts etc all use but a shortened version that friends, my dad, co-worker, dad's family etc use. If she was introducing herself to you she'd use the shortened version. I'd say that's why. It's normal for them to use Catherine because that's what they use at home. Also Kate is a shortened version of Catherine. I went to school with a Katie. She was always known by the name Katie even her parents used it. Her real name is Catherine.

MartaHallard · 12/01/2019 15:32

saying it's like any abbreviation isn't quite true is it.

Kate is possibly the most common short for Catherine, going right back to Shakespeare, if not earlier. Lots of common short/nicknames sound different from the original. Polly for Mary, for example. Why should that mean they can't be used interchangeably?

Dongdingdong · 12/01/2019 15:35

Nearly everyone I know is called by their full name by family. The shortened forms have started at school, university or work.

In my case it’s the opposite. Plus there are dozens of baby name threads on here where people want to call a child by the “proper” name on the birth certificate, but openly admit they’ll never use that name in real life - only the shortened version.

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Dongdingdong · 12/01/2019 15:37

Polly for Mary, for example.

Polly is “short” for Mary?! You learn something new every day on MN!

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ItsQuietTime · 12/01/2019 15:38

🙋‍♀️ I'd like to nominate this thread for 'Non-Issue of the Day' 😂

Iwantdaffodils · 12/01/2019 15:39

It's possible that William knew her as Kate at university but switched to Catherine when they spent time with her family because that's what they called her.

I don't know any of them so I don't know, but it's as good a theory as any other.

brookshelley · 12/01/2019 15:40

According to “The Crown” Margaret called our dear queen “Lilybet” privately so was she messing about using Elizabeth in public? Grin

ManicUnicorn · 12/01/2019 15:40

My Dad's immediate birth family, so my Grandparents and his siblings always call/called him by the full version of his name. My Mum and everyone else calls him a shorter diminutive version.

Likewise I was friends with a Katherine at Uni who has shortened it to Kat. Her family all still called her Katherine though.

longwayoff · 12/01/2019 15:45

YAWN. So then what does she call her husband? Duke? Prince? Oh no, that's the dogs Will? Willum? William? Bill? Billy? Liam? Surely someone on here knows. How pretentious is she being when she does so? Has the DM revealed it to us?

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 12/01/2019 15:47

Because she will be Queen Catherine. Not Queen Kate.

That will never happen. People will have fully woken up to the idiocy of the monarchy by then.

Livingthedream44 · 12/01/2019 15:50

It's her name.

Tartyflette · 12/01/2019 15:53

I believe there was and is a push by royal circles to have her full name used exclusively — around the time of the wedding Prince Charles was apparently banging on about how he couldn’t stand ‘television weather-girl names’ (eg Kate) and that Catherine was far more appropriate.
May be wrong but if not it’s somewhat ironic when his elder son was called Wills at home and Harry is of course the familiar form of Henry.