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New mums making me feel like crap about myself

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uhtredsonofuhtred · 11/01/2019 13:02

Just got back from play group with my 2 year old and quite frankly I'm feeling quite shit about my appearance.

So thought I'd better venture out today because staying indoors with a energetic 2 year old is not the one and we've had loads of days in with either her or myself being ill.

Put a bit of make up on tie the hair up and try and make myself look a bit more presentable (all though I still look like I've just fell out of bed) do the school run and get to playground for just after 9am.my friends there with her 3 month old and I haven't seen her since she was 2 weeks old, her mum (my friend) looks radiant! No make up on (maybe a bit of moisture) her hairs down and straightened with nice clean clothes on, she looks great!
Another lady who I know of comes walking over with her 3 week old and again looks radiant and absolutely stunning, she's had her cut and minimal make up on her clothes are nice, and no new mummy belly, cup of coffee in one hand and her baby in her arm.

How are these woman looking this great at 9 in the morning with new babies  I look like utter shit with just a two year old in tow. It's not fair 

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Apple103 · 11/01/2019 14:23

I have a 2.5year as well op and it's tough BUT I also make myself a priority.The trick is to be organized and plan ahead.

I have a set makeup routine which is the same thing I do everyday but i can do a full face from foundation to eyeliner in 5 minutes. Years of doing the same thing but i always feel so good. I wash my hair twice a week (specific days)And for the bad hair day I have a few styles for that.
I take 10 minutes on a sunday sorting out outfits for the week. I do the same for my ds. I do the same on a Friday for the weekend ( I know what plans I have by then).
I have my hair done every few months.
If I do have the time I get my nails done else I do them myself.

This might sound like alot of maintenance but its really, really not. Years of doing this makes it second nature for me and very little effort.

PinkHeart5914 · 11/01/2019 14:26

The new mums didn’t make you feel shit, they said nothing too you. They were just going about the day. I’m sorry to hear you down on yourself but why do these women get the blame?

I’ve got 3 dc ( oldest is 3 years old) and my hair has always been washed & straighted every morning, lipstick & mascara on, plus clean clothes ( good stables like jeans, good quality T-shirt’s, wrap dresses can make anyone look, good with minimal effort) DH gives the dc breakfast before work if they are awake and I shower get ready for the day. I get up earlier to put myself together as it makes me feel good so that is my priority in the morning

Laiste · 11/01/2019 14:32

By my mid 20s i had 3 under 5 and i used to get out of the house with them all to do the school run ect looking fabulous. I always had people telling me they couldn't believe i had happy little kids, 4 PT jobs, a clean home and managed to be groomed to the hilt every day AND time and energy to go out on the piss sometimes, but my routine was very rigid. I liked it that way and it worked for me. I saw a few school gate parents who were a bit side eye about me. ''Always made up and dressed up that one ...''. Not bothered.

I was up at the crack of dawn without fail. I had a house work, laundry and cooking routine which needed sticking to. My me time was doing my nails, feet, hair, lashes, face pack or whatever for an hour or two each evening while the telly was on. If the kids were ill or something came up then the grooming would go out the window, but the thing about a routine is that you can drop it for a day or two if you need to and go back to it and it's what you do the majority of the time which gets noticed.

Now i've got a fourth child and i'm older. I'm the still same, i can get into a routine and stick to it and cruise along like that because it's sort of ingrained. (However there's a bit less to do re child care these days because the three big ones are grown up (20s) and love their little sister and help me out a lot :) )

DoingMyBest2010 · 11/01/2019 14:33

I look worse now than when I looked with a new baby in tow. Simply because DD just stayed in one place...so I could faff about with my face, hair and clothes.....now I just don't the time!

HoustonBess · 11/01/2019 14:34

I wouldn't assume they get hair and faces done because they've got their shit together more than you. They might be more organised and happier etc etc - or they might be walking balls of anxiety and self-criticism who simply couldn't forgive themselves for being anything less than perfect.
Looking good is not always the same as feeling good :)

uhtredsonofuhtred · 11/01/2019 14:35

@PinkHeart5914 it was all very lighthearted like I said above 

I don't have anyone here to give my children breakfast whilst I shower and get ready ( my husbands leaves home at 5am) it's all on me to drag 3 teenagers out of bed for school/college, feed dogs and let them out, sort the cat out, get a 4and 2 year old up and dressed/fed/teeth done and out the door for 8:30.
I'm not down on myself I have no problem looking like cruella Deville on the school run while try to stop my two year old pet every dog on the way. I simply was astonished that two mums with new born babies and 6 other kids between them looks so good at 9am 

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Neverunderfed · 11/01/2019 14:43

These threads often degenerate into assumptions that put together mothers must plonk their kids in front of cbeebies to get stuff done, a lot like the housework ones. Which does no-one any favours tbh.

The most put together people I know are just organised. They wear a face mask watching TV in the evening, wipe the kitchen down while waiting for the kettle to boil, have mastered one handed make up application. One friend uses a sling for the latter, her toddler peers over her shoulder at her in the mirror and they chat. They're not sacrificing anything. As you say, you like to chill in bed or MN or whatever...maybe they don't do that.

I could do with losing a few stone pounds but don't look too bad, I stick to a formula clothes wise so I know what I like and it takes seconds to dress. I have a pixie cut so it barely even needs brushing. I take care of my skin so need minimal make up, a bit of foundation on my chin and nose, a bit of blusher and I'm done.

Laiste · 11/01/2019 14:44

Not to be argumentative but you said in your OP
quite frankly I'm feeling quite shit about my appearance.

Now you say
have no problem looking like cruella Deville on the school run
but are
astonished that two mums with new born babies and 6 other kids between them looks so good at 9am

Lots of people have said they get up early and get on with it. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 kids .... it's all the same: time management and priorities. If you want or need to get something done badly enough then you will. What your priorities are is your own business mind you. There's no right or wrong once the kids are clean, fed and happy. The rest of it is up to you. I'm sure no one is judging you.

uhtredsonofuhtred · 11/01/2019 15:02

@Laiste yeah I do contradict myself a lot lol I do care but I don't if that makes sense? Like if I have to put make up on then I'll sacrifice something else so it can be done!
Like I'll go do the school run anyhow I don't care and I'll think to myself that I'll look alright in the afternoon when I'm back to pick her up, but I simply don't because I can't be arsed to fart arse about putting make up on when I could be catching up with friends on the whatsapp group.
I know it's all about being organised and prioritising but I just can't be bothered but I know that if I take the time to do it I'll feel like this confident sexy woman that looks fabulous and fresh and I love that feeling but like it's not the being all to me but I want it to be! I'm just babbling on now 

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uhtredsonofuhtred · 11/01/2019 15:06

I just need a good kick up the bum 

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Laiste · 11/01/2019 15:10

uhtredsonofuhtred - now ... i'm a groomed school gate'er, BUT all that you just said in your last post rings true to me about when it comes to dieting!

I need to lose a stone (or two if i want to be an 8 again) but i can't quite care enough to actually do it everyday. Diet i mean. It's a weird feeling. I want it ... and i will do it eventually ... but not yet, i'm not quite in that zone yet Grin

RoboticSealpup · 11/01/2019 15:17

Maybe they have lots of spare cash to get nice clothes, get their hair and manicure done, get help at home to save time, etc? That's hardly a reflection on you, if so. It's a piece of cake to look nice if you're well off.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 11/01/2019 15:17

When I was pregnant, my health visitor told me I should keep wearing makeup after my baby was born. Not in a mean way (ha), but as a way to keep some time for myself and maintain my sense of self. I think it was great advice.

See I think that would be rubbish advice for me but was clearly good advice for you.

I think a major difference here is whether grooming is a pleasure or a chore for you. I think of doing my hair and make up, going to the hairdresser and other beauty rituals as tedious shit that I jettison if I can get away with it. Lots of women seem to enjoy it, though. I went to a new mums' group at the local Children's Centre when DS was a newborn and the HV running it told us all to commit to doing one thing for us that week. Every single other woman there did a beauty ritual as her 'thing' (nails, hair, eyebrows etc - whether professionally or at home). I was the only one who picked having a cup of tea and reading a book completely undisturbed. For me it seemed such a waste of such precious leisure time to spend it ripping hair out of my face, but other people genuinely enjoy it and it makes them feel genuinely better, I get that - I only think about my eyebrows when I see them, which isn't much. For me - and maybe for OP - beauty stuff takes time away from me time, for some people it clearly is me time.

uhtredsonofuhtred · 11/01/2019 15:22

@Laiste yep want to, could do with it, will do, don't know when, fuck it can't be arsed, oh but Id look so good! Lol it's like tug of war in your head 

@RoboticSealpup I don't think their well off, their both sahm ones on maturity leave, others worked part time in the past with her first, they don't have new cars, both rent (well at least I know one does) their not dressed to the 99s with contoured make up there just normal with fresh make up free faces and I want one lol

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loveskaka · 11/01/2019 15:43

New borns a in most cases are the easiest.

Neverunderfed · 11/01/2019 15:45

I'm the same re weight loss. I'm quite plump, no two ways about it. But I quite like myself and am not overly motivated. If I could click my fingers and lose 3 stone, I would happily eat better in order to maintain. However losing it is another matter.

Racecardriver · 11/01/2019 15:46

New norms are easy. Not to mention that minimal make up is often actually well applied make up.

SlowOx · 11/01/2019 15:55

LisaSimpsonsbff

I fully understand what you're saying, obviously if you don't enjoy grooming/makeup stuff then that won't be very therapeutic for you.

But just to say so this doesn't turn into a "women who enjoy troweling on makeup and getting their nails done vs. women who prefer to read a good book and drink tea" type thread - I also love reading and find time to do that every week as well as putting make up on in the morning Smile

Mummylife2018 · 11/01/2019 16:06

@SixButterflies Is there really any need? Yeah let's make a mum feel worse about herself when she's posted for support!?

uhtredsonofuhtred · 11/01/2019 16:06

I agree some newborns can be easy, but it's not so easy when you've 4 other children to sort out and you've got to fit in feeding/ winding which in some cases can take upto an hour at a time, yes of course their easy if their the only one but believe me their not when their not 

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Smotheroffive · 11/01/2019 16:10

Women can look radiant in and shortly after pregnancy, its very different to managing toddlers, when the preg hormones have gone, and it depends if you are eating healthily, exercising and getting enough sleep to look 'well'.

Some women have babies that sleep. I can remember when mine were littlies, trying to choose between eating and sleeping (when hungry and desperately sleep deprived) when baby went to sleep (only for about half an hr at a time if lucky!). Ditto when any sickness and up through the night.

When you only have one pair of hands, and others may have real partners who do share responsiblility and raising DC well.

Also, many around me had their own dp who would help, even so they could grab a shower, or babies that slept for longer. Some of them pretty smug about their 'trick' and special aptitude for getting g babies settled, still couldn't help out with mine who were always super active certainly never slept 20 hours!! I never heard anything so preposterous in terms of my situation.

Yes, its also true we can be much harder judges of ourselves looking from the inside, than we are of others that we only see from the outside.

Money makes a massive difference, being able to pay for house cleaning, nurseries, hairdresser to cut hair at home, regular visits by the waxer, and podiatrist, all make life so much easier, when these thing take up vast amounts of time to do with one pair of hands and littlies to manage.

Maybe you don't look as 'bad' as you think you do! You have a great attitude of not having to be in the school pickup 'line up'! Some have enough sleep and help, etc. Everyone's lives are SOOO soo different that it's not equal starting point.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 11/01/2019 16:51

But just to say so this doesn't turn into a "women who enjoy troweling on makeup and getting their nails done vs. women who prefer to read a good book and drink tea" type thread - I also love reading and find time to do that every week as well as putting make up on in the morning

Absolutely - I did try quite hard to phrase it so it didn't sound like that, or like I was being judgy about women who have grooming as their treat for themselves, because I did know it might come across that way. I genuinely think it's just a horses for courses thing - if grooming is a tedious chore for you it's just quite hard to imagine it being fun for other people (I similarly completely fail to imagine how anyone has cleaning as a leisure activity, but completely accept that some people love it). Also, tbh it's not like I spend all my leisure time reading Dostoevsky or anything - the book I chose for that cup of tea and relax was properly trashy so I'm not sure it had anything to recommend it intellectually above doing your nails! I also waste a ton of time on MN, clearly.

Salmakia · 11/01/2019 17:59

I think women would be far happier if there was a cultural shift to just not comment on other women's appearance - either good or bad commentary. Not commenting could hopefully ease into not noticing.

Even if we think we are being kind by saying to a woman "Your hair looks great", "Your make up is lovely", "This outfit is really nice on you", or whatever the statement we are making is that I notice you as decoration and haven't picked up on any of your personality, opinions, skills. It's a really damaging mindset for women collectively. And it's a total trap. Everyone will age if they're lucky. When we are all a certain age we will never be look of as attractive by mainstream society and all the time spent chasing that ideal is setting us up for disappointment when it is impossible to attain.

ambereeree · 11/01/2019 18:11

I think some women are just super organised. A few of the single mums i know who also have no help at home are always well groomed.
But if you feel shit about yourself that's for you to sort out why.

IdblowJonSnow · 11/01/2019 18:15

It doesn't matter. You're not what you look like. And I'm sure you're being too hard on yourself also.

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