To feel sad for the guy in the paternity fraud case

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Was watching it on GMB this morning and he was teary , I feel sad for him . I can't imagine finding out when the kids were older that they weren't yours! I get that the boys are standing with their mum but surely they must be feeling cross with her lies :( all such a mess for them :(

@BejamNostalgia exactly, it's a total mess and the innocent parties are:-

Son 1
Sons 2 & 3
The "not" father

The guilty parties are

Ex wife
Her "lover" or "lovers"

He had ever right to seek £250 and go public if he so wished. Maybe it'll make the guilty pair look to their behaviour and apologise to all around them for the trail of destruction they've caused.

@floribunda18 out of court settlements are USUALLY confidential, but a high profile Mr MS case would attract media attention.

@floribunda18 lie to one man AND HER CHILDREN!

It’s not just “having an affair” it’s providing your children with possibly multiple siblings they may never know about. Sharing family resources without it being known to or agreed with by the other spouse/partner. I think it’s just as much as a betrayal actually.

Obviously Floribunda. This is happening to a MAN you see...

The double standards on this thread reminds that we haven't really moved on from feudal times.

It was ok for men to shag around and have kids everywhere but if a woman did it there was hell to pay.

One must have an heir after all. Biology is all in inheritance.

I see. It's worse for a woman to lie to one man, than one man to deceive two women and several children which may be involved.

Talk about double standards.

No it's worse to lie to anyone by allowing them to believe that they are the biological parent of a child.

This mother also lied about an affair so she has lied to 1 man about an affair, and lied to 3 children and the same man about who is the father of those children.

Yes, anyone that has an affair is despicable. But deceiving a parent and children in this way is worse.

Everything which happened up to the point of the settlement can be reported. It sounds like this went through all the initial stages and was only halted in November at the 11th hour before the full hearing. So everything up until then would be very much open to reporting.

Thank you Carol.

@CarolDanvers correct and by definition having a dick makes it acceptable for him to be treated like this. He is of course guilty ................ just remind me what he's guilty of?

It’s not just “having an affair” it’s providing your children with possibly multiple siblings they may never know about.

Surely this mother and the biological father(s) of these children may well be guilty of this also? What if the biological father has other children? The half siblings don't know of each other's existence

It was ok for men to shag around and have kids everywhere but if a woman did it there was hell to pay.
In my view it isn't ok for anyone to do that, man or woman.

But it is especially cruel to lie to the man and the children about who the father is. That adds an entire other layer to the deception. Bad enough if one of them had an affair but this is another dimension, so yes it makes it worse.

It seems to be the opposite way actually. On this thread he's wrong because he's a man and he should be grateful that he got to raise and spend a fortune on three children who weren't his biologically.

I'm a feminist but this thread is insane. And yes, men who deceive women throughout their marriage and who have secret families ought to get dragged through court too. (And a dozen heavily top horned bushes)

It's worse for a woman to lie to one man, than one man to deceive two women and several children which may be involved

I think both are as bad. But this woman lied to her kids too. Not just one man.

And then defrauded him.

With a man having 2 families.....at least the kids would know who their parents were.

Heavily thorned bushes!

FOR ABOUT THE FIFTH TIME, IT WAS AN OUT OF COURT SETTLEMENT WHICH ARE USUALLY CONFIDENTIAL

For about the seventh time, the claim form and associated submissions are a matter of public record. I know from professional experience that the Daily Mail employs a dedicated muck raker to go through this kind of thing looking for stories. If he hadn't've made it public, the mail or another would've. As the main wronged party, he's every right to have some control over the narrative.

Just to be clear, I don't think he's wrong to bring the court case and get some money back off her, I just think he's wrong to go public about it and offer a reward for finding the dad, and I don't accept his motives for doing so. There may have been publicity before the settlement but he could have laid low for a week or two until it blew over. I also don't know how someone could ever regret bringing up their children, even if they weren't their own biologically, and even if they were deceived about it.

One things for sure, if the real father didnt know he had sired 3 further children, he does now.

Maybe that was part of the plan, smoke him out via the press. Who for sure will be trying to find out....

I also don't know how someone could ever regret bringing up their children, even if they weren't their own biologically, and even if they were deceived about it.

I agree.

Where has he said he regrets bringing them up?

The son made it sound like his mother made a conscious decision to get pregnant (and deceive).

"She had just had an unhappy marriage and she wanted kids"

also don't know how someone could ever regret bringing up their children, even if they weren't their own biologically, and even if they were deceived about it.

Maybe he doesnt regret the children per se but regrets being trapped in a situation that had he known about he would have left? Maybe he would have found a way to have his own biological family or made different life choices had he not been led to believe that he had fathered 3 children?

Maybe it's that he is seeking recompense for? Or maybe he does resent having spent all that time and money on raising another man's children? Which although difficult to comprehend is surely his right? Would you be happy if I insisted that you financially raise 3 children that weren't yours?

Wasn't the sum returned to him meant to represent his contribution as child maintenance since his separation and divorce? I can see why he would want to be able to use it for theoys' benefit directly, which is what he's said he will do, thus bypassing their deceitful mother - who isn't exactly hurting for money.

On this thread he's wrong because he's a man and he should be grateful that he got to raise and spend a fortune on three children who weren't his biologically.

It beggars belief. The hypocrisy is disgraceful.

I feel sorry for what his ex did to him but his reaction to it must be devastating to his son's. Going on national television and allowing it to be plastered on the front pages must be humiliating for them.

He is of course guilty ................ just remind me what he's guilty of?

where have I said he’s “guilty” of anything? Can’t seem to see it...

Going on national television and allowing it to be plastered on the front pages must be humiliating for them

What's humiliating is that their mother lied about their paternity. Should he have just let the fraud go?

Would you if someone owed you hundreds of thousands?

Presumably if the mother had admitted to it the matter never would have got to court and so would not have been made public?