To be surprised that some friends are buying extra food because of Brexit?

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I suspect that specific foods may get be in short supply for a short period of time, but there will still be plenty of food in the shops. It is not going to be Armageddon. So this seemed an over reaction to me. Or am I going to be that person in the disaster movie who is laughing saying everyone is over reacting, who ends up dead when the disaster finally hits?

Yeah, according to a random internet sprite on a prepper board, Will. . In reality, people with nothing left to lose do very desperate things, and the idea that Brexit will bring communities together and everyone will hold hands and sing Kumbaya when the shit gets real and they realise how fucked it all is is laughable.

Well perhaps MN is a bit of an echo chamber since Ive just been onto the GMB facebook page referred to and 99% of those commenting seem to be saying its stupid scaremongering. I was feeling a bit more confident that lots of people were being responsible. Now not so sure. There seem to be a lot of uninformed people out there. Which equals chaos

I would like nothing more than that. Things to stay the same and no disruption to our lives at all. If my prepping has been in vein then no harm done, just mega cheap food shops for the next year

However I'm not stupid either and I'd rather be wrong than have to brave the shops. I'm not arsed about the opinion of those people posting on that thread saying 'OMG just stop it' because that kind of suggested fear can turn ugly if it doesn't pan out the way they expect.

Cloudtree those very same people claiming scaremongering panic buyers will blame people that stockpiled for the shortages...

I will be stocking up on cat food as they have specialist diets and they're fussy. Also, cat litter and litter liners.

It's not like we like in a remote desert area of the us where a storm could come in and lend us miles from a shop and we need emergency rations

I got snowed in in rural Suffolk in the mid-1990s for five days. Nearest shop was five miles away with five-foot snow drifts between me and it. I ate my way through a big sack of potatoes.

If you blame shortages on people storing stuff at home you don't know much about food distribution. Food we generally buy from the supermarket in March/April/June is currently at the processing plant for distribution. It won't yet be at the supermarket or the supermarket warehouse. The Just in Time distribution system that we have in this country doesn't allow it.

It is prepper 101 not to expect communities to come together. People who are friends now may have discussions together and make plans together but that is a bonus and, frankly, it is foolish to assume that's going to work 100% of the time. There may well be a weak link in the chain of who you tell.
Again, that's prepper thinking. It is nice to be nice. But be nice while, at the same time putting your household first.

Cloudtree those very same people claiming scaremongering panic buyers will blame people that stockpiled for the shortages...

Why shouldn’t they blame them?

Any supermarket worth its salt will be planning a surge requirement like for any bank holiday, festive period, likely weather pattern or national event. There is only so much the just in time system will allow.
Don't blame consumers for this.

Why shouldn’t they blame them?

Because by and large those stockpiling now are not panic buying, they are buying a little extra with each shop. It won't be them who clear the supermarket shelves in the days after Brexit is triggered

No, it will be the idiots who don’t prepare in advance

Ok plump Well you seem to be enjoying your doomsday scenario there. So I'll leave you to it.
. I was making more of a causal observation really, I don't think all communities will sing kumbaya at all. I was pointing out the wonderful collaboration that was going on, somewhere...

Because by and large those stockpiling now are not panic buying, they are buying a little extra with each shop.

How do you know this? What’s being said on here, and presumably other places, includes blood-curdling warnings of shortages and disorder. By these comments alone people are encouraging panic buying.

I just hope that most will be grown up and sensible and not indulge in this childish melodrama.

@KissingInTheRain , there is no blood curdling on here that I have seen. Only sensible advice for advanced low level planning. As cloudtree has said. People who plan now won't be grabbing things in a panic in March.

By these comments alone people are encouraging panic buying.

I just hope that most will be grown up and sensible and not indulge in this childish melodrama.

I wouldn’t worry too much. The rest of the world is far less hysterical than AIBU.

wonderful collaboration that was going on

Ahhh, BlitzSpirit ^^

people are encouraging panic buying.

New definition of panic for new BrexitEnglish dictionary: (verb) taking gradual action in January, for an event in March.

We’ve said it so many times. If you buy now you give the shops plenty of time and opportunity to restock. So for example Ds2 likes a particular type of pesto. When I stopped at Lidl for bread the other day I bought a tray of it (12). That will simply show as a small spike in demand and in a couple of days time it will have been replaced through the jit ordering system. So others can then still purchase.
If I did nothing but tried to buy the same amount on 28th March there’s a pretty good chance firstly that the product won’t be there on the shelf and even if it is, that it won’t then be replaced for a good while due to the issues that have been outlined on this and other threads. That is when shortages impact on people.

The sensible and responsible thing to do if you have the money is to stock up now.

TheElements

Old and still good definition of dishonest post: editing what was said and then denying the untrue version.

I said: What’s being said on here, and presumably other places, includes blood-curdling warnings of shortages and disorder. By these comments alone people are encouraging panic buying.

I don't blame them. In fact there's a whole website dedicated to it, brexit food. I'm going to start adding things to my larder starting this week. Better to be safe than sorry and haven't to fight for the last tin of tomatoes

Tinned foods will be unlikely to be in short supply. It's fresh food that may be a problem, as supermarkets rely on "just in time" deliveries.

Food we generally buy from the supermarket in March/April/June is currently at the processing plant for distribution
That's not how JiT works, why would a food processer want to go to all the cost of storing stuff for 3 months?
The supermarkets provide suppliers with projections, and they work off those - the aim is for stuff to leave the factory on day 1, arrive at the supermarkets Distribution Centre at day 2 and arrive in the supermarket on day 3. In some cases (bread), it goes straight from the producer to the supermarket, there is some slack in the system, but no one wants a load of stuff hanging around in expensive buildings.

Of course, supermarkets will vary their projections & I'm sure they are keeping an eye on things with a long life that people may be hoarding, but at the same time the manufactures will be managing their own supply chain back to the primary producers (farming) - there is a finite capacity and if demand rises above previously experience levels then shortages along the chain will occur. These shortages are not just material, but in storage space, drivers, vehicles etc - no one has many of these hanging around idle on the off-chance demand goes up & their shareholders will soon be howling if they are seen to be 'wasting' money.

dishonest

Ooh, handbags! Did I cause panic?

Can we define "bloodcurdling" then? Is it "something I disagree with"? Or maybe it's "tone policing"?

And, while we're at it, can we redefine how a discussion in January whether "on here on in other places" could constitute encouragement to PANIC when the event being prepared for is in March? Particularly as MNers and assorted UnBeLeavers in other places have been talking about stockpiling for months now, on a large number of platforms.

Unless your specific beef is that the population might read comments today and rush out to fight each other in the supermarket aisles today and Dear God we'll be out of bottled water in Tesco tomorrow and don't you know that those were part of the only bottles of water allocated to the British Isles, back in the 1980s, and no more will be delivered before March?!!

No you didn’t cause panic with your post. You were just dishonest.

If you want to find alarmist comments just RTFT.