To be surprised that some friends are buying extra food because of Brexit?

[abacucat]

I suspect that specific foods may get be in short supply for a short period of time, but there will still be plenty of food in the shops. It is not going to be Armageddon. So this seemed an over reaction to me. Or am I going to be that person in the disaster movie who is laughing saying everyone is over reacting, who ends up dead when the disaster finally hits?

DH's father (evacuee) used to be sent out to collect hawthorn leaves from hedgerows to supplement their diet and stave off the hunger.

And you'll soon have people telling you how wonderful that was. Foraging, just like our nomadic ancestors who followed deer herds and probably worshipped them, too. But hey, they were all thin. Aw, just like in the good ol' days when you could be sent to jail or executed for poaching off the Master's land.

Cannot believe people actually think rationing was a lovely time. People were half-starved and used to steal, cheat or whatever possible to get more food.

My DGM was supposed to get her food rations through the hospital she worked at (not in the UK). Her brother happened to own a shop. Hospital gave her reduced rations on the basis that her brother must be giving her extra on the side. Her brother never gave her anything, as she was supposed to get things through the hospital. She was too proud/humble/whatever to ever say anything. She fed her kids and went hungry. And later on, like most others of the same generation in my family, was always obsessed at keeping lots at home, just so she'd never ever have to go through the same again.

My Dad served as a medic in the Royal Navy during WW2. He had planned, in peacetime, to specialise as a paediatrician. However, as a result of his time in service - seeing his shipmates traumatised and psychotic because of their experiences under fire and in extreme danger, and seeing their comrades blown to bits or drowning in burning oil on the surface of the sea - he trained as a psychiatrist. He didn't often speak of his experiences (there were some good bits - he enjoyed the travel and comradeship), but when he did, it was clear how badly they had affected him. War is not fun.
My mother, an Irish nurse, was bombed in both Gloucester and Liverpool. She lost a number of her fellow nurses in air raids. She too rarely spoke of it.

Oh yes, let's not forget the theft! I'd love to not feel safe in my home, or for supermarkets to have to have people in to enforce the rules of how much one person can buy.

Honestly, what stupid things to say about how rationing was fine! Is it some sort of self delusion to distract from this mess or to assuage the guilt of voting leave as they're convincing themselves they aren't worried?

I like bathing daily with hot water and wearing clean clothes, having choices of clothes and food, my children eating what they enjoy and not having to battle with my eating disorder because my safe foods aren't available.

I'm sure leavers will think the above is hilarious, but hope they don't fool themselves by not preparing. Nobody expected leave to win, or for Trump to become president, or for terrorist attacks. Just because you can't imagine it happening, it doesn't mean it won't so it's sensible to prepare on the off chance.

I'm sure leavers will think the above is hilarious,

They think we're all going to bond together, that it's all for the common good to go without hot water (because dammit, it was good enough during WWII and didn't do people any harm) and choice of foods (because in the past, if you didn't eat what was given you just starved, but of course, people didn't they just tucked in and they were grateful).

bellinisurge

clavinova
There. Is. No. Such. Country. As. Southern. Ireland.
How can you possibly have anything useful to contribute on the backstop issue if you don't know this?
Geography 101. Our neighbours. FFS.

oh4forkssake
You’re still wrong. Parts of Donegal which are in the Republic are further north than most of Northern Ireland.
Call it Ireland, the Republic of Ireland or ROI if you want to avoid typing too much.

I was busy earlier - you might like to amuse yourselves firing off some emails to the following then (amongst others!):
www.powakaddy.co.uk/southern-ireland-stockists/
www.paddywagontours.com/6-Day-Tour-Of-Southern-Ireland
www.justgoholidays.com/itineraries/8298-southern-ireland-steam-train-adventure?air=1
USA Today
traveltips.usatoday.com/travel-southern-ireland-106775.html
wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ireland

I forgot to add in my original reply to avoid confusion;

"Yes I know that - I was using the word Southern as a geographical description - I originally used italics but it deleted"

There. Is. No. Such. Country. As. Southern. Ireland.

Actually many Irish Republicans use the term Southern Ireland as a descriptor because they do not recognise NI as not being part of the republic. It’s a valid term.

Besides. Everyone knows by now that we’re going to remain. I don’t think there is any possibility at all that there is going to be any sort of meaningful Brexit. The closest we would get is if Corbyn was elected and we stayed in the customs union as Labour want.

None I know. I'm half Irish.

The thing about the Blitz spirit is that we had an outside enemy to fight against. In this case if things go horribly, the enemies are the neighbours/friends/colleagues/relatives who voted for it. How are we supposed to pull together if it's something we inflict on ourselves?

the enemies are the neighbours/friends/colleagues/relatives who voted for it

I've never looked at others who have different views and opinions as myself as enemies.

Clavinova - every time I see an idiotic reference to Southern Ireland on here I correct it. It's not geographically accurate. You don't get away with that silly defence.
The fact that the border issue is so crucial to Brexit and yet so many people seem not to know this simple fact is gob smacking. It's not a footnote. It's not political correctness. It's rude, arrogant and frankly it is betrayal of sloppy thinking to get it wrong and then dismiss the error as trivial. What else have you applied sloppy thinking to on Brexit?

Wicklow and Cork, for example, are Southern Ireland. Like Kent and Sussex are Southern England. Meaningless and stupid to suggest they refer to the entire country.

There's another thread on stock piling and a poster mentioned some wonderful Co operation between herself and her neighbours, using the space available to stock pile and her elderly neighbours taught them how to grow veg.

How wondeful, imagine if brexit could bring people together like this? Turn it into a positive? Generation's learning from each other like that and sharing..

How wondeful, imagine if brexit could bring people together like this?

Until they get broken in and it all gets nicked.

Call me cynical but for every act of community there will be antisocial and selfish behaviour.

And community only lasts until the situation starts to look desperate and then people take more than their share out of fear...

Sorry bellinsurge, getting stroppy over that is such a plastic thing to do.

Well your thinking further down the line there, long term shortages and the breakdown of law and order.

I was thinking more optimistically short term pulling together in case of shortages but hoping there won't be.

So short term kindness and pulling together and long term no issues. So no need for disorder.

KFC was a short term thing that had people overreacting, even a couple of weeks would be too long to many people. Especially those with special diets due to disease or allergy.

I know people keep mentioning insulin, but what if the sugary foods needed in emergencies are not available for diabetics? The special milk for cmpa babies? Gluten free foods? Watching family and friends go through that will pull everyone apart rather than bring them together.

I'd love a pulling together of communities but I don't think it will happen.

Oh, yeah, kindness and deprivation are such likely bedfellows. Haahaaahaaa! Right up there with Brexit bringing communities together.

Excuse me, my unicorn is waiting to take me to the fairy godmothers' ball.

I live in the west of Ireland and I've started stockpiling, mainly due to the risk of the supply chain to Ireland via the UK in the event of a no deal.

The below article has a sobering gif in the impact on delivery times going via sea rather than the UK land bridge:
www.politico.eu/article/cargo-food-production-producers-brexit-burns-irelands-british-bridge-to-eu-markets/amp/

I have a child with CMPA and egg allergies, so will look not be taking any risks on their diet being impacted.

Snow last year forced a wide shut down in our area, having an impact on the availability of bread, milk etc, so even if it isn't required post Brexit it's still prudent to have stock of the basics.

I've never looked at others who have different views and opinions as myself as enemies.

Neither have I. I'm predicting what could happen.

Going on the stockpiling for Brexit thread on GMB Facebook page I'm thinking if the shit does hit the fan there's going to be a crazy world out there.

There will be no communities coming together.

And this isn't "views and opinions", it's not a philosophical debate. It's a real thing which may be about to shaft all but the wealthy. We are already a nation with a desperate need for food banks, something I'd never even heard of 10 years ago. If one thing's for sure, the price of living will get higher this year. Some people will not cope. And if they are people who were already concerned about this and voted to remain, they may understandably be angry at the people who made it happen.

Even short term.

We are a pampered nation all on all when it comes to availability. It won't be a pretty sight.

But some people are coming together now.