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Saw something really horrible

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QuestionableMouse · 06/01/2019 23:38

I accidentally clicked on a link to something really awful. I don't want to go into too much detail but it was animal abuse and pretty graphic. (Chinese dog meat trade)

I can't stop thinking about it and it's really upsetting me. I'm not sure how to get it out of my head and didn't sleep much last night because it kept popping into my head.

Any ideas how I can get past it please?

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HirooOnoda · 07/01/2019 15:08

@sackrifice I mean you are now just being a little silly aren’t you 🙄

Racist? That’s rather lazy and inaccurate at best and grossly ill informed and offensive at worst. While I have already concurred that there is some parallel to be drawn about the consumption of any animal, whichever animal, wherever that may be, however your suggestion that there is no difference between what the OP saw in terms of farming of dogs in China and say our own cattle industry here in the UK in terms of animal welfare is laughable. For sure both end up dead, both likely suffer unnecessarily but clearly one suffers far more - you and your type lose so much credibility with your petty intransigence which is really sad given the causes you champion are often good ones

Also, bleating on about others being hypocritical yet ignoring that you are as equally so in many areas of your life is just as tiresome really

sackrifice · 07/01/2019 15:12

all the vegans seem to pile into the argument and tell everyone how wrong and bad they are for eating meat, for instance when it comes up on facebook, you get the vegans saying you should not eat meat and how its the only way, they should live and let live .but without fail someone will compare the slaughter of animals here and China,as if its no different, i was saying what the difference in methods of slaughter are

I am not a vegan love.

sackrifice · 07/01/2019 15:13

Don't think people were objecting to those, merely the accusation that because they eat dead animal they must bow to the moral superiority of veganism when it comes to matters of animal torture. You can be one without being the other.

You know what they say about assumptions...What makes you think I am vegan?

Smotheroffive · 07/01/2019 15:18

What has happened on this thread.

A traumatised OP is being further traumatised with awful talk,blame and vile abuse.

What's ridiculous is drawing comparisons between these extremes.

Some posters seem blinded by their extreme views to the harm they are causing their fellows humans.

Not everyone has the constitution for this stuff and all you do is alienate yourselves by being extreme, instead of what you seek.

To seek to garner support, but you seem to only know how to be degrading, extreme and abusive as a means to that end.

The definition of insanity is to repeat something that's not working for you and expecting a different outcome.

Traumatising people doesn't help your cause, you need to be a bit more clever than that.

You can see the effect its having,but you ignore it.

Death threats are not uncommon either.

The ends don't justify the means

You are being extremist and hurting people.

Clearly this thread is not the place to cause further trauma!

AdamNichol · 07/01/2019 15:19

I didn't say you were a vegan; but you're previous posts hint at a moral sympathy towards veganism

sackrifice · 07/01/2019 15:26

I didn't say you were a vegan; but you're previous posts hint at a moral sympathy towards veganism

In your opinion. My point is about the hypocrisy of meateaters who berate other cultures whilst also eating meat. I don't give a shit who eats what. I've said it more than once.

Not everyone has the constitution for this stuff and all you do is alienate yourselves by being extreme, instead of what you seek

I am not a yourselves, I am a single person. What are you on about?

NewYorkDoll3 · 07/01/2019 15:51

@sackrifice

Blimey, someone's over-tired?! Shock

Did you get out of bed the wrong side this morning? You sound very angry and pissed off, and frankly, your posts are full of vitriol. You are doing NOTHING but projecting anger on this thread, and are not coming across very well at all!

Even if you DID have a point (originally,) it has been extinguished by your vitriol and ranting and anger.

Time for your afternoon nap methinks.... Wink

BitOutOfPractice · 07/01/2019 15:54

I just wanted to say @Skittlesandbeer that I thought your post was really interesting. I liked the analogy of a thought making a deeper groove the more you think about it.

Smotheroffive · 07/01/2019 15:55

Why are you being so nasty sak?

Such nasty nit-picking? Are you dead-set on making an enemy of everyone?
These women on here are being decent and you're treating them like absolute shit whilst trying to claim the high moral ground.

sackrifice · 07/01/2019 16:03

These women on here are being decent and you're treating them like absolute shit whilst trying to claim the high moral ground.

The OP told me to fuck off. That is hardly decent. Bit defensive tho, aren't you?

Even if you DID have a point (originally,) it has been extinguished by your vitriol and ranting and anger.

This isn't anger. It's a response to the OP and the other people trying to pretend i am a toddler and that I need a nap. Utterly pathetic.

Vitriol. Are you having a laugh? Perhaps you need star jumps?

NewYorkDoll3 · 07/01/2019 16:11

Wow. Just wow..........

NewYorkDoll3 · 07/01/2019 16:13

Surely the fact that almost EVERYone on this thread thinks you are being unreasonable and nasty should tell you that your ARE @sackrifice ???

Why so angry? Confused

HirooOnoda · 07/01/2019 16:15

@sackrifice

Come on now, you are positively seething with your passive aggressive angst. I know it’s monday and it’s January but onwards and upwards - let’s try and stay positive.

We can all disagree at times, ultimately as you said, you don’t care what people eat - well it’s quite likely most of those you are responding to don’t care what you think. In your words that’s fine, we should really just try and move on at this juncture. You have largely derailed the thread with your petty sniping - I think most would concur you did have a valid point to make at one point but it has now been lost in a sea of your own frustration

NewYorkDoll3 · 07/01/2019 16:17

Totally agree, and that's pretty much what I said @hiroo. Smile

sackrifice · 07/01/2019 16:21

Surely the fact that almost EVERYone on this thread thinks you are being unreasonable and nasty should tell you that your ARE

Give over.

Come on now, you are positively seething with your passive aggressive angst. I know it’s monday and it’s January but onwards and upwards - let’s try and stay positive

Lol. Not me telling people to fuck off. I know you want me to get angry bit this is literally pathetic.

Smotheroffive · 07/01/2019 16:21

I get that this stuff is driving you nuts. You can hear from what others have said that it greatly upsets others too.

II think we all realise OP is traumatised by what's she's seen, means she's needing support tto deal with that, and is also likely to get more upset by others that want to push their own agenda without any regard for her.

I don't think there's anything remotely defensive in my post. I really do see you attacking others here, you are deriding their words and feelings.

Star jumps is as good a way as any to move on, please do not attempt to take the piss out of others efforts to help OP.

If this was a thread about how to help end cruelty you would be better placed,but its not, yet clearly you are wanting to derail the thread that OP started and make it your own.

Just start your own thread, and leave OP and others supporting her, alone.

Vent your anger in your own thread. Stop piggy-backing OPs thread for your own ends.

messyhousetidymind · 07/01/2019 16:23

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QuestionableMouse · 07/01/2019 16:25

@sackrifice I did swear at you and I apologise. However your persistent and repeated posts about neat eating in general have totally derailed this thread. I don't know what joy you're getting from posting like you are but it it making me incredibly frustrated because your have persistently ignored the point. This thread isn't about neat eating. People can eat dogs or cats or each other for all I care as long as they're humanely killed before the fact. That does not happen in the dog meat trade and it's that which upset me.

I didn't want to be graphic because I don't think anyone here needs the details but the pic I saw was of a live, conscious dog being dismembered. It was absolutely awful and it's troubling me deeply. I'm not in a position to give financially at the moment or would support the charities suggested.

Please, for the love of God, can you stop with the posts about meat eating in general? In fact, can you just stop posting here altogether and let this thread go back to what I intended it to be?

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sackrifice · 07/01/2019 16:25

You have largely derailed the thread with your petty sniping - I think most would concur you did have a valid point to make at one point but it has now been lost in a sea of your own frustration

I am not frustrated, just responding to the personal comments made about me. But crack on if it makes you feel better.

messyhousetidymind · 07/01/2019 16:27

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sackrifice · 07/01/2019 16:28

However your persistent and repeated posts about meat eating in general have totally derailed this thread.

The OP is about an animal being killed for meat eating, right? Or not?

Smotheroffive · 07/01/2019 16:28

Pp...please don't post disgusting images on here. What's the point you saying you won't give details then give details.

How ignorant is that ffs?! Questionable mouse

Totally turned off by louts who write and post disgusting and abhorrent shit and expect others to be pleased about it!

Or to not be offended and upset

Smotheroffive · 07/01/2019 16:31

Stop derailing sack

And no, its not about you, and you are being offensive and making it all about your views

sackrifice · 07/01/2019 16:35

And no, its not about you, and you are being offensive and making it all about your views

And now I am being offensive? Love it. Not the person who described the dog being dismembered. Yeah it is all me.

QuestionableMouse · 07/01/2019 16:36

@sackrifice what is your problem? Are you hard of thinking? You seem to be utterly failing to grasp that killing an animal for meat humanely and torturing an animal to death for meat are two utterly different things.

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