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Saw something really horrible

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QuestionableMouse · 06/01/2019 23:38

I accidentally clicked on a link to something really awful. I don't want to go into too much detail but it was animal abuse and pretty graphic. (Chinese dog meat trade)

I can't stop thinking about it and it's really upsetting me. I'm not sure how to get it out of my head and didn't sleep much last night because it kept popping into my head.

Any ideas how I can get past it please?

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AdamNichol · 07/01/2019 11:58

@sackrifice 100% agree with you. People who eat meat and then get their knickers in a twist about the Yulin Dog Festival don't seem to realise how ridiculously hypocritical they are.

You wear clothes, ergo (unless you grow your own cotton or synthesise your own nylon) you are a hypocrite to object to the production of garments by children in toxic chemical environments.

By the same logic....

HirooOnoda · 07/01/2019 12:10

@AdamNichol you took the words right out of my mount. People are often hypocritical, vegans, vegetarians, meat eaters - the lot of us

@sackrifice the irony of you getting your panties in a twist accusing others of being hypocritical while being - I am entirely certain - completely hypocritical yourself if you care to extrapolate your own argument is not lost on me. Hilarious stuff Grin

Still, whatever makes you happy and warm inside

HirooOnoda · 07/01/2019 12:10

*mouth

sackrifice · 07/01/2019 12:17

@sackrifice the irony of you getting your panties in a twist accusing others of being hypocritical while being - I am entirely certain - completely hypocritical yourself if you care to extrapolate your own argument is not lost on me. Hilarious stuff

I am not getting anything in a twist, I am pointing out the hypocrisy inherent in the virtue signalling in this thread.

Go play a game of Tetris, it will take your minds off it. Apparently.

nomorearsingmermaids · 07/01/2019 12:18

I had that with an article I read months ago about the murder of Rachel Nickell. Every time I think about it I cry, I can't bear it.

Some things just get you, don't they.

HirooOnoda · 07/01/2019 12:30

@sackrifice it very much doesn’t seem like that, you are coming across quite flustered with it all

Of course you are correct to point to a level of hypocrisy with on the one hand complaining about animal welfare and on the other hand supporting practices that are harmful to animals. It seems a little far fetched and clearly there are large degrees of separation between what has been described by the OP and consuming a turkey at Christmas but on some level there are parallels. Suspect you too undertake many practices that are harmful to both animals and the environment, to use your rationale you might as well just eat meat yourself, it tastes great and leaves you less...irritable Wink

As for Tetris? I think I will pass, it’s not the 1980s and I am at complete peace with my life choices

JustABetterPlayer · 07/01/2019 12:34

Apologies for my post late last night which is now rightly deleted, in hindsight not the best of videos to suggest watching Blush

Whatsnewwithyou · 07/01/2019 12:35

We are ALL hypocritical, it's part of living in the modern world and pretty much unavoidable if you want to have anything like a normal life. However that is no reason to just throw up our hands and do nothing. I will do what I can and feel comfortable with to make the world a better place even though I can't make it a perfect place.

For me that includes donating to charity, doing volunteer work, and, having been vegetarian for years, now going vegan. However I also drive a car, fly to go on holidays, and wear high street fashion. Maybe I will do more in future, maybe I won't, but right now I'm doing something and I think that's better than doing nothing. How can it not be???

Willow2017 · 07/01/2019 12:35

Sactifice
Do you eat avocados?

Willow2017 · 07/01/2019 12:36

dammit...Sackrifice

Whatsnewwithyou · 07/01/2019 12:40

“When the suffering of another creature causes you to feel pain, do not submit to the initial desire to flee from the suffering one, but on the contrary, come closer, as close as you can to him who suffers, and try to help him.”–Leo Tolstoy

RrreCansada · 07/01/2019 12:46

sackrifice agree with every word you say. So many people can't make the conection. The meat industry is as nasty in every country as any dog festival.

Land of Hope and Glory on you tube,Earthlings too is another informative documentary that will back sackrifice up. This is real life for these animals everywhere and it is happening now.

sackrifice · 07/01/2019 12:48

Do you eat avocados

What has it got to do with you?

As I have said, eat what the fuck you want. I couldn't give a flying fuck. But you can't wail about one type of animal that is being killed for human consumption whilst also eating other animals for human consumption. If you are happy to eat meat, then own it. And stop the virtue signalling bullshit.

Willow2017 · 07/01/2019 13:18

Sackrifice

Just answer the question. You ate berating people for their choices why not tell us yours?
Or are you afraid to?
Maybe you arent such a know it all perfect super eco friendly anti exploitation of all living things warrior after all?

QuestionableMouse · 07/01/2019 13:21

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Isitsixoclockalready · 07/01/2019 13:21

I remember watching the film Threads back in the 80s and that disturbed me for a while but like most other things, it fades into the background after a while.

KarmaWhore · 07/01/2019 13:23

I have seen loads of stuff like that I also disagree that it's "cultural" skinning an animal that loves companionship alive is just cruelty, plain and simple. I started donating to the charities that help them every month started off with 10 now I pay 20. One is Rushton dogs and the other is sobi dog.l but there's loads others. They infiltrate trucks and save loads of dogs. Just be happy that these things upset you because you are compassionate which seems to be lacking these days. Hope you feel better soon x friends is a good shout or the US office x

M3lon · 07/01/2019 13:34

I think it does make a difference how animals die. I'm pretty sure the posters on here saying it makes no difference would choose the stun gun over the cooking alive for themselves if it came to it...so why shouldn't it matter for animals?

Also 'havening' is totally woo. Things are either evidenced to work better than placebo or they aren't. 'havening' hasn't been...hence woo.

There are several actually tested and found to be effective treatments for trauma out there...I'd recommend the OP seek them out if the PTSD symptoms don't ease in a few days.

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QuestionableMouse · 07/01/2019 14:13

I didnt post here to discuss the merits of eating meat. I posted to get some idea of how to get a phone of a dog being dismembered while alive and fully conscious out of my head. Your posts have totally derailed my thread and are not helpful in the slightest.

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MamaDane · 07/01/2019 14:15

Once in my teenage years saw a snuff video where a couple of guys randomly killed a man who happened to walk in an area they were in. They bludgeoned him with a hammer. I was traumatised for days and fearful of people.

About a month ago I accidentally watched the video of the Danish woman killed in Morocco by terrorists (A Norwegian was also killed but didn't appear in the video). The fact that she cried out: "Mor" (Danish word for mum) as he killed her has upset me a lot.

There's nothing we can do about what happened in the video. Sometimes it's good to remember that not all human being are kind and trustworthy and can do horrific things to others (including animals).

I'm really sorry you had to see that. Just make sure to do something nice for yourself today. Give yourself some TLC. Because it is tough on your psyche.

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QuestionableMouse · 07/01/2019 14:15

Also you have no idea of my ethnicity so I'm not sure how you think my posts are in any way racially motivated. I'd be just as disgusted and upset if the photo had been taken anywhere else in the world.

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Whatsnewwithyou · 07/01/2019 14:25

Completely agree with everything @sackrifice has said, and I don't see how she's been preachy or unkind or derailed anything. Tons of people have given ideas on how to get the video out of the OP's head while others have suggested ways we might help animals to suffer less. Not sure how anyone could object to either of those.

princessTiasmum · 07/01/2019 14:49

Sharona i wasnt meaning anyone here, particularly, trying to brainwash, sorry if thats how it came across,i was meaning sometimes [mostly] when the issue of meat etc is discussed,all the vegans seem to pile into the argument and tell everyone how wrong and bad they are for eating meat, for instance when it comes up on facebook, you get the vegans saying you should not eat meat and how its the only way, they should live and let live .but without fail someone will compare the slaughter of animals here and China,as if its no different, i was saying what the difference in methods of slaughter are

AdamNichol · 07/01/2019 15:05

Not sure how anyone could object to either of those.

Don't think people were objecting to those, merely the accusation that because they eat dead animal they must bow to the moral superiority of veganism when it comes to matters of animal torture. You can be one without being the other.
Part of my strand of paganism is to respect the animals which are consumed for nutrition. We are not required to be vegan but neither is it a tasscit acceptance of the abhorrent methods of industrial farming or practices in other nations.