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AIBU to feel insulted for having to pay for Christmas dinner at my SIL?

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Headwir3 · 06/01/2019 21:05

My SIL said she would host Christmas this year as she has a big new house and plenty of room for us all. I asked if I should bring something and she said she would just do a shop and split the cost. She did suggest we bring our own alcohol. I thought it was a little odd, as did my hubby but he reminded me that she was cheap and the food wouldn’t cost that much anyway! Best to just agree with it instead of making a fuss.

Anyway we had Christmas, I took up 5 bottles of wine (only drank one and my hubby didn’t drink any). Left them there when we left. We were given cereal for breakfast and tinned soup for lunch and a basic Christmas dinner. No puddings and just a little cheese for desert.

We just got the bill... it came to £40 each! AIBU to feel angry and insulted by this all? It doesn’t seem right to hand over money. Especially to family. Also I feel really ripped off! I don’t want to upset my husband, but his family are a new level of cheap. If I did that to my brother, he probably wouldn’t speak to me again!

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CantChoose · 07/01/2019 08:06

I can see our Christmas at my DM's costing that much PP to be honest but it doesn't sound like you were given much of a spread!
I wonder whether she included the cost of all her Christmas decorations or something?!?
In your position I'd probably pay it but not go again.

SushiMonster · 07/01/2019 08:10

There’s no way what she served cost £40 each! As for an ironise dbill. And ask for your wine back.

I expect our day cost more than £40 over the Christmas Day for 14 people. Full salmon, ham, massive roast beef fillet and turkey plus all the trimmings, amazing cheeses and pudding and wine and champagne and more.

Aeroflotgirl · 07/01/2019 08:14

Not op fault, when SIL said about splitting the cost, she should have costed it first, then stipulated a price to op, giving them a chance to refuse. That price is a hell of a lot for cheap food, op dh said that his sister is stingy or something to that effect. I expect she was inflating the price for her own gain, next year if they go to hers, they will charge the little ones too. Op, let your dh deal with his sister, and don't go next year, very rude.

ILiveInSalemsLot · 07/01/2019 08:15

Pay £40 in total then ignore anything else. If she badgers, say you’re betting it off against the wine.

ILiveInSalemsLot · 07/01/2019 08:16

Netting not betting

Aeroflotgirl · 07/01/2019 08:17

There is noway that 1 adult can eat £40 worth of food for one day, it was cheap Aldi food, not Waitrose or M&S,which I would expect for that price.

ChocolateWombat · 07/01/2019 08:17

What a shame this all is. In the end it's not really about whether the cost is £40 or £20 or £100, but about the relationship between these people. We don't know how the host feels about it all, but we know Op is insulted and it's not great that even before Christmas she felt resentful and afterwards feels so extreme as to call it insulted. It all seems so unnecessary.

Some people manage a very cheap Christmas with a good meal and some treats and snacks on a tight budget. Even then it's often more expensive than those who've not hosted realise, because it's far more than one meal, especially if people stay over night. On a very basic level, people forget you might need more loo rolls, more soap, napkins, crackers, perhaps toiletries..... Others spend hundreds and hundreds.

And what's this calculating it all to see if it equals £40.... £5 for veg and £30 for a turkey? Surely there's no need to do this. Okay, some people are of the view that no-one should ask for money for food over Christmas, but lots also realise that sometimes it's the only way if the hosting falls to those who might have space but can only afford to do so if people chip in, or if they feel it's fair to share the cost. If you're being the guest and that's the deal, suck it up with good grace. And then I'd say, smile and pay what's asked for.

I'm amazed by those who say you'd eat out for less. Round here, a pub Christmas dinner on Christmas Day for an adult is close to £100 per head. Of course it's a daft comparison because restaurants have to pay staff and make a profit.

Who knows if it cost the host £50 per head and she's decided not to charge the full amount, or if it cost £35 and she's rounded up.......and to be honest, who cares.....is it really necessary to know the exact cost or pay the exact cost. As a guest isn't it good to recognise the effort and burden of hosting and be a bit flexible and willing to do what the host asks, rather than asking for an itemised bill or for the return of the wine? Perhaps they are asking for £5 for per head than they spent, well does it really matter? Is it really about the money or about the family relationship - being able to smile and say 'here's our contribution that you asked for and thanks so much for all your effort hosting us and a lovely Christmas'. Christmas will come around again very quickly and these people will still be your family. Do you want to enter next Christmas and the discussions with everyone remembering that you asked for an itemised bill or refused to pay what they asked for or created a bit of an atmosphere.....do t be the ones to be responsible for that. And if this has really upset you and made you feel insulted (and I'd say you'd need a pretty thin skin and to be hyper sensitive to feel as badly as all this) then just determine that next year you'll arrange your Christmas differently. But don't agree to an approach you feel insulting and then go along and feel irritated and judgemental through the the whole event and afterwards - sounds like you were determined to feel offended from well before the event took place, never mind now.

Pay up. Does it really matter if you are £10 out of pocket compared to what you could have bought the food for? You were able to go away and not have to make up the beds for guests, clean the house before and after and be a guest. It really is t about the exact amount spent.

Aeroflotgirl · 07/01/2019 08:19

The SIL offered to host, if it is too much, don't off, just don't rip off your guests.

Aeroflotgirl · 07/01/2019 08:20

host, doh, it is the principle, that behaviour from SIL has left a bad taste in their mouths, and I don't think op will be going there next year.

grumiosmum · 07/01/2019 08:22

I spent £250 on Christmas food - top quality, everything organic - which was enough to feed 14 people. Not including wine.

She is being ridiculous. Restaurant costs are higher because they include overheads & staff wages.

Everyone also brought wine and an extra dish.

No way would I ask anyone to chip in cash - but in families that are hard up, that's a fair solution as long as the costs are worked out fairly.

It sounds as if your SIL hasn't actually looked at her costs, but has decided that £40 is a fair amount to charge as that's what you would expect to pay if you went out. She's got the principles quite wrong however.

Panicwiththebisto · 07/01/2019 08:28

I guess you will pay up to keep the peace but when she asks for help you’ll be busy and when she asks to borrow stuff you’ll have lent it to someone else.

Purplecatshopaholic · 07/01/2019 08:29

OMFG! You don't offer to host and then CHARGE people!! Thats just wrong, wrong, wrong. Never eat there again!

Panicwiththebisto · 07/01/2019 08:33

Or pay her in 1p pieces!

ForgotTheBastardElfAgain · 07/01/2019 08:38

I think she’s having a laugh trying to charge that too, but I disagree about the wine being relevant. I wouldn’t thank anyone for leaving wine at my house if they had previously agreed to (or at least not clearly objected to) reimbursing me with cash. It doesn’t give you the moral high ground, and I can almost see the AIBU now: CF SIL agreed to help pay for Xmas dinner, and has left wine as payment without discussing it.
I’d either pay her and then charge her back next year (this year?) or do as others have said and offer her a more reasonable amount.

Madeline88 · 07/01/2019 08:42

I think it is fair to contribute as it can cost a lot for Christmas dinner! But 40 pounds is too much.

In my family we all contribute something. So we bought a big side of salmon, some cheese, a bottle of baileys and also wine and beer. Other family members contribute other things so the cost doesn’t all fall on the person hosting and it ends up being a huge feast.

SunLover53 · 07/01/2019 08:51

Considering she's cheap enough to invite you to dinner and the charge you, she'll probably have added the cost of sleeping there for 2 nights on to the bill. You agreed in advance though so you have to pay the bill and chalk it up to experience. It's a good excuse to not have to go there for xmas dinner ever again!

ChocolateWombat · 07/01/2019 09:05

Imagine that on calculation the exact cost is actually £30 per head (if it's that important to know exactly what it cost) - is it worth creating bad feeling over £10 each or £20 in total, with people who will always be your family and who you will need to spend time with (and hope to have happy times with) for many years ahead?

What is all this 'pay in 1ps', 'ask for an itemised bill', 'ask how much the turkey cost', 'ask for the wine to be posted back' - are all those suggesting these things just having a laugh and would never do these things, or are you all people who want to pick a fight and find things to be offended about if every situation, rather than just thinking 'C'est la vie', perhaps having a momentary passing thought of 'that's a bit more than I'd imagined' and then moving onto other thoughts which are more enjoyable and useful. Or do you all spend your lives seething about the wrong other people have done you and how to equal everything up. Isn't life a bit short and relationships more important?

There's another thread running about people who missed loved ones who have died or have been seriously changed by illness this Christmas. Doesn't that put these petty little things into some kind of perspective?

theOtherPamAyres · 07/01/2019 09:16

Full board for 2 days for a family? Someone else doing all the organising, shopping, cooking, bed making, cleaning and clearing up after you'd gone?

Is your objection to the amount that you were charged for this 'mini-break'? It seems like a reasonable deal to me - especially if children were free.

ISdads · 07/01/2019 09:32

The objection is more about family profiteering from family.

They aren't running a b n b

CmdrIvanova · 07/01/2019 09:43

Next year get a Cook Christmas dinner for 2. £35 for both of you. Saves you £55 (minus the cost of a tin of soup and bowl of cornflakes), plus the cost of wine and petrol.

ThatThingYouDo · 07/01/2019 09:54

I'm irritated on your behalf OP. Tight people get on my nerves.

I've hosted numerous Christmas dinners, Easter dinners, New Years Day dinners. It never would have occurred to me to even contemplate charging people! At the most, we asked them to bring drinks.

She's a CF and YANBU!

SalmonLeBon · 07/01/2019 10:02

there are other costs of hosting if you don’t do it very often like enough plates, cutlery, glasses, buying new/extra bedding or pillows or covers

But you don’t pass those costs on to your guests Confused. They are sunk costs, and you retain the use of items for the future.

My SIL/brother hosted us for 2 days over Christmas. I strongly suspect that the meals we were fed would easily stretch beyond £40/head because they are more of the Fortnum and Mason type budget. They would never charge a penny. If you can’t afford to host, you don’t offer.

BarbarianMum · 07/01/2019 10:06

And so families where noone can afford to host everyone should never get together at Christmas Salmon? Or should stick to beans on toast if they do?

The OP was told there'd be a charge. That was the tine for her and her dh to stick to principle and declare they wouldnt consider paying and would rather stay home.

BHStowel · 07/01/2019 10:06

Thank god for Wombat and Pam, I was feeling quite alone there.

Give her £100 and a bunch of flowers.

Aeroflotgirl · 07/01/2019 10:19

Why BHStowel for profiteering from op, and being sneaky, your having a laugh. Op has already said that her dh has said that his sister is tight, I hate meaness, why should op give over what she asked for and flowers, smacks mug to me. Let your dh sort it out, and don't go next year.