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To not pay £150 on the (probably false) promise of “I’ll give you the cash next week”?

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GunpowderGelatine · 03/01/2019 14:40

Does anyone else have family member or friend that does this - they seem like they're giving you a gift or doing you a favour, only to “call it in” at a later date?

For example - my birthday is in July. If me and my mum are shopping in April and she offers to buy a jumper, with absolutely no indication that it's anything other than a gitft, then in July say "I haven't bought you anything to unwrap as I got you that jumper from M&S remember?". I'm now wary of this as I actually like to unwrap things on my actual birthday, and wouldn't have agreed to buy a jumper I'd have bought myself if I knew it was going to be an early birthday present.

When DD was born, DH had just gone self employed and was making nothing, I was on maternity leave and i mean it when I say every penny counted. DD was our first and as a present my mum said she would go halves on her cot and mattress (I got both in a sale for a total of £180, she would give us £90). She lives abroad and said she would give us the £90 in cash on her next visit. We bought the cot and mattress, DD was born, money suddenly got very tight and prior to mum's arrival,we really budgeted and factored this impending £90 in to our food shopping and phone bill for that week.

Well when she arrived, the first night she wanted a Chinese. "I'll get it" she said - at that point we really couldn't afford takeaways but thinking it was a treat I said yes. She also came with a jumper she bought me from where she lives (she did call to ask a few months earlier but I was busy at work and hastily said "yes please" when she said "There's a lovely green jumper in X shop, would you like me to get you one?"). She also paid for a few coffees on that visit when we nipped out together. At the end of the week, she produced £15 for me for the cot and mattress. I said "oh I thought you were going halves" (Trust me I would not have said this had I not really needed the money) and she said "Well your and DH's part of the Chinese was £15, the jumper I brought you was £35, I've spent £30 on coffees and drinks when I've been out and I also paid for parking that day". I graciously took the £15 (and we ate beans on toast for a week and delayed our phone bill, luckily BT were understanding) but I would never have said yes to a takeaway, jumper (especially one I'd never seen at £35! I didn’t know the price until then) and coffees had I known they weren't treats. It sounds ungrateful, but it really annoyed me that the 'favours' were taken back.

Anyway, to present day - luckily me and DH much much better off now, but a similar situation has arose. My mum didn't get anything for the kids for Christmas and its their birthdays this month. She's coming next week and has said as a joint Christmas/birthday gift she'll buy them a plastic toy house with kitchen - lovely idea! She found one for £150 from Argos, I'm happy with it. Despite being in her 50's she can't get her head round ordering things online, she's asked me to do it with her card. She sent card details, and it declined. She's said "Oh must be something wrong with my card, why don't you buy it on yours and I'll give you the cash when I'm there next week?". Now we aren't in dire straits like last time but I don't want to fork out £150 to be told next week "well I got X Y and Z so here's £20". WIBU to tell her no, I'm not ordering it, just buy it cash when you're here? We can do click and collect! She'll ask why i won’t order it on my card (and no doubt throw in a passive aggressive "don't you have any money?") but not sure what I'd say!

For clarity, when she's here she stays in our spare room, doesn't offer to contribute towards food (though she does clean up after herself), we ferry her everywhere (including to and from the airport) but get no offer of petrol money and we don't get so much as a bottle of wine for having her for a very long week.

OP posts:
Piffle11 · 03/01/2019 16:57

I used to have an ex partner like this. I would tell him that we needed to put some more money in the joint acc for bills and he would say 'yes but I bought that X last month for us, so you have to cover it' - 'X' was always something I didn't want, or use: new phone for HIS study, upgrade the TV even though old one was fine, etc. Drove me mad! Ended up having to count every penny so I could come back at him with a counter claim!

woollyheart · 03/01/2019 16:58

Yes, she likes to get the glory, but with you paying the price!

You know what she is like. Don't thank her for things until she has paid and they are in your hands.

Don't pay for anything on her behalf. Once it is bought, she will be out to reduce her share of the bill. If she asks why you haven't bought it, just say you'll leave it to her, otherwise it isn't a real gift from her.

EveryDayIsLikeMonday · 03/01/2019 17:06

Make sure you reserve it before you take her to pay for it. My local Argos seems to have nothing in stock and you have to order to collect after 4pm or the next day.
Ask her if she wants to order the fridge freezer while you're there, then she might feel guilted into paying for the kids' present to distract you from the fridge freezer!

Jamiefraserskilt · 03/01/2019 17:10

My treat
I can't afford it mum
I will pay when I see you
Then we will buy it when you arrive
I'll get this
Good, because I have budgeted for a bean coloured jumper
Did you want me to....
Thanks Mum but I will say no at this time nice thought though

bobstersmum · 03/01/2019 17:15

My mum is a bit like this! Although for some unknown reason she has changed lately and is being quite generous.
Op your mum sounds annoying, and tight. Definitely don't buy the kitchen and don't accept any offers of anything else in the future, it's the only way.

Dimsumlosesum · 03/01/2019 17:20

My MIL is like this! Messaged me from another country's version of a pound shop, said "I've found some safari animals you said the kids were looking for, do they still want them?", me, knowing it's from a pound version shop said sure, if that's ok?. I get a pill for 87p 3 weeks later Grin

Dimsumlosesum · 03/01/2019 17:20

*bill

redsummershoes · 03/01/2019 17:36

your mum sounds like mine.
I don't tell her anything about finances anymore
in fact, I don't tell her much at all as anything is turned back at me. weather is a safe topic Grin

Pogmella · 03/01/2019 17:52

My Exh used to do this and it would drive me mad. He couldn't budget for toffee so he'd be captain generous at the start of the month and then claw it back at the end (when I asked him to pick up some groceries on the way home). Same guilt trip about "I bought you that takeaway/pub lunch etc" Well I assumed if you were offering to treat me you could afford it on top of your existing commitments... if rather not be 'treated' and then have to nix my own budget for household essentials in a fortnight.

Fluffyears · 03/01/2019 19:36

Mil is tight in a very sly way. She’ll ask DH to go for tea and the order a massive breakfast, DH has a can of Coke or an OJ. Now he doesn’t begrudge mil avtea or a lunch on occasion he always end up paying. When they go to pay she’ll just stand there looking about and DH will be like ‘oh so i’m Paying I take it.’ If she goes somewhere like Waitrose she’ll buy a massive cake as well as tea ‘i’ll Just go and get a table son...’ stiffed with the bill again. She used to want to go to chip shop every week on her way home from shopping and was always saying ‘you just nip in son and i’ll Wait here’. DH got rude to her and says how ‘oh I can’t park (the parking is terrible), you go and i’ll Circle round and collect you!’ Once when I was nipping to McDonald’s he said ‘fluffy is going to Mac Donald’s....’ and straight away she said ‘oh well if your offering!’ Well I fucking wasn’t as I had £5 to my name so had to put it on my credit card. We take her shopping on a weeknight to avoid this shite.

She likes to appear generous and buys unwanted tat from charity shops and church fayres, awful cheap stuff. She also gave away a brand new case i’d loaned her to a stranger. It had been used once but her beautician mentioned her nephews,friends, cousin etc needed to go and buy a case ‘oh no need I have one he can have!’ That really pissed me off as it was brand new and perfect as hand luggage, it also cost £50. A few months later she was off on a trip and called husband to ask if he had a bag or case and he said no as I was refusing to lose another case. ‘Oh does fluffy not have anything I can use?’ I loved his answer ‘well she had a lovely brand new suitcase until you gave it away to a total randomer’.

You have to get wise to hervtricks and get around her. Good luck.

makingmiracles · 03/01/2019 19:39

My exp mum was like this, she went to a festival (which we would of loved Tom have gone to but couldn’t afford) and brought us back t shirts, then told us we owed her £20 each for the tshirts!! We would’ve never have bought the tshirts ourselves if we’d have been at the festival! Same with clothes and toiletries for exdp, ooh I’ve bought you these...up you owe me x y z!

AGree, lose your wallet when you take the trip to argos....also, maybe take the dc...”wow isn’t nanny kind buying you this playhouse for Xmas” .....

Holidayshopping · 03/01/2019 19:51

Mil is tight in a very sly way.

Blimey-none is that is very sly, just blatantly rude and incredibly tight! I would say something every single time...Sorry, I only have a fiver. Please can I have my suitcase back, it was only a loan. Etc etc

She’ll keep doing it if you let her.

ILoveMyCaravan · 03/01/2019 20:16

When I'd had my second DC my DM told me to make sure I told everyone that she had provided several meals for me as her 'welcome present' as it was a more practical thing to do rather than anything the baby might need. (I'd had an awful pregnancy and emergency section). What she had actually done was turn up with a small joint of gammon for my freezer.

Santaisfastasleepatlast · 03/01/2019 20:22

When I had ds my mil turned up with a mahoosive box of baby essentials.
Stood there while I opened and enthused. She stood smiling then left.
Dh admitted the gift was from her boss..
Than I had never even met.
Mil got him a rocking horse from freecycle that went straight into a skip.

Whatsforu · 03/01/2019 20:43

I find this sad can't imagine doing that to my kids. I will give them my last penny. Glad to hear things picked up for you sounds like you deserved it after all the rubbish from your mum.

Fluffyears · 03/01/2019 21:57

@holiday shopping done if it is dog like ignoring the bill as she a bit dotty (aye right) and the ‘i’ll go and get a table’. It was when we needed the case she said she’d given it away and was all pleased with herself at how nice and kind ‘she’ was. It’s easy to be kind with other folks stuff. I wouldn’t grudge her a tea, a lunch a loan if anything but she takes the rip. I refuse to lend anything now as god knows who will end up with my stuff!

Lost88 · 04/01/2019 06:37

I don't believe she has no money, she probably knows exactly what she's doing and it's pretty horrible that she's doing it to her own daughter. @Auntiepatricia agree with you.

MsHopey · 04/01/2019 07:14

My FIL is the most generous person in the world to his "friends" but not so much to his kids.
He offered to help us move house once, all he did was chuck half of our stuff to his "mate" who collected scrap metal. Leaving me with half sets of items, a sewing mannequin with no stand, a stool with no legs and similar.
We'd loaned a tv off MIL and he asked if he could loan it after us for his bedroom (they're separated), he had us deliver it to his to find out he'd GIVEN it away to a "mate" the same day.
He's an ex professional painter and decorator but is always "too busy with people to see and things to do" to come and help us with the house, but manages to come round after we've finished to criticise the work DH has done. Yet I've seen him babysitting his flavour of the weeks kids and moving gardens for his friends.
MIL even said she'd give her kids the last breath in her body, and FIL wouldn't give his kids half his pint.
I so don't get it.

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