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To not pay £150 on the (probably false) promise of “I’ll give you the cash next week”?

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GunpowderGelatine · 03/01/2019 14:40

Does anyone else have family member or friend that does this - they seem like they're giving you a gift or doing you a favour, only to “call it in” at a later date?

For example - my birthday is in July. If me and my mum are shopping in April and she offers to buy a jumper, with absolutely no indication that it's anything other than a gitft, then in July say "I haven't bought you anything to unwrap as I got you that jumper from M&S remember?". I'm now wary of this as I actually like to unwrap things on my actual birthday, and wouldn't have agreed to buy a jumper I'd have bought myself if I knew it was going to be an early birthday present.

When DD was born, DH had just gone self employed and was making nothing, I was on maternity leave and i mean it when I say every penny counted. DD was our first and as a present my mum said she would go halves on her cot and mattress (I got both in a sale for a total of £180, she would give us £90). She lives abroad and said she would give us the £90 in cash on her next visit. We bought the cot and mattress, DD was born, money suddenly got very tight and prior to mum's arrival,we really budgeted and factored this impending £90 in to our food shopping and phone bill for that week.

Well when she arrived, the first night she wanted a Chinese. "I'll get it" she said - at that point we really couldn't afford takeaways but thinking it was a treat I said yes. She also came with a jumper she bought me from where she lives (she did call to ask a few months earlier but I was busy at work and hastily said "yes please" when she said "There's a lovely green jumper in X shop, would you like me to get you one?"). She also paid for a few coffees on that visit when we nipped out together. At the end of the week, she produced £15 for me for the cot and mattress. I said "oh I thought you were going halves" (Trust me I would not have said this had I not really needed the money) and she said "Well your and DH's part of the Chinese was £15, the jumper I brought you was £35, I've spent £30 on coffees and drinks when I've been out and I also paid for parking that day". I graciously took the £15 (and we ate beans on toast for a week and delayed our phone bill, luckily BT were understanding) but I would never have said yes to a takeaway, jumper (especially one I'd never seen at £35! I didn’t know the price until then) and coffees had I known they weren't treats. It sounds ungrateful, but it really annoyed me that the 'favours' were taken back.

Anyway, to present day - luckily me and DH much much better off now, but a similar situation has arose. My mum didn't get anything for the kids for Christmas and its their birthdays this month. She's coming next week and has said as a joint Christmas/birthday gift she'll buy them a plastic toy house with kitchen - lovely idea! She found one for £150 from Argos, I'm happy with it. Despite being in her 50's she can't get her head round ordering things online, she's asked me to do it with her card. She sent card details, and it declined. She's said "Oh must be something wrong with my card, why don't you buy it on yours and I'll give you the cash when I'm there next week?". Now we aren't in dire straits like last time but I don't want to fork out £150 to be told next week "well I got X Y and Z so here's £20". WIBU to tell her no, I'm not ordering it, just buy it cash when you're here? We can do click and collect! She'll ask why i won’t order it on my card (and no doubt throw in a passive aggressive "don't you have any money?") but not sure what I'd say!

For clarity, when she's here she stays in our spare room, doesn't offer to contribute towards food (though she does clean up after herself), we ferry her everywhere (including to and from the airport) but get no offer of petrol money and we don't get so much as a bottle of wine for having her for a very long week.

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DobbinsVeil · 03/01/2019 15:07

if you do click and collect, won't she just find some reason not to pay? I think you'd have to be prepared to go without taking your card so as not to cave. I'd suggest she take the DC out shopping by herself so she can have all the joy of treating them.

category12 · 03/01/2019 15:08

Grin I'm sure someone'll be along to tell you off at some point.

GunpowderGelatine · 03/01/2019 15:08

She can be extremely tight - last time she was here we went to the Body Shop and I had £5 to spend on my loyalty card. I like to save it up for a treat, but she bought something for herself and used it to get the points, then tried to nick my £5! I swooped in and said no, cheeky mare. She had a right sulk on about it! If she wasn't so tight-fisted I'd have let her, it's only £5 after all and it's free, but i really don't feel like she deserves it (petty I know).

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StormTreader · 03/01/2019 15:08

Could you ask her for the money as soon as she arrives? Say "can I get that cash from you now so I can get the food shopping tomorrow" or something, so she doesn't have time to fritter it away on random "bits"?

thebaronetofcockburn · 03/01/2019 15:09

Get to the Stately Homes thread to get some support on how to become more assertive with her. You're operating under FOG here - fear, obligation and guilt. But you've at least learned that you have to tell her NO because she rips the piss.

Holidayshopping · 03/01/2019 15:10

Definitely forget your purse when you take her to Argos.

Munchkingoat · 03/01/2019 15:11

If be utterly amazed if she actually does end up buying that kitchen, she'll have forgotten her card or 'thought you were going halves' or something!!

GunpowderGelatine · 03/01/2019 15:11

I think you'd have to be prepared to go without taking your card so as not to cave. I'd suggest she take the DC out shopping by herself so she can have all the joy of treating them.

Yes, luckily the 'big' Argos is just round the corner from our village so I'm gonna take the car (will have to to fit the bastard thing in) and go with no money or card. it'll be like a Western stand off in who's paying otherwise Grin

Storm if I said that she'd probably produce a ruby from her suitcase and say "Well I bought you this so technically you owe me, but we'll call it quits" Grin

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HeebieJeebies456 · 03/01/2019 15:12

be blunt with her!
she's taking the piss.

Just tell her "our budget is already allocated for other things and to be honest, we've been here before haven't we? If you want to buy dc something then do it when you get here"

Don't ferry her about when she gets here, how long is she staying for?
She can use public transport or taxis - or you ask her for petrol money upfront if you are expected to be the chauffeur.

She's a tit for playing this game.
Stop ignoring it and call her out on her 'generosity' because it's anything but.

NoSquirrels · 03/01/2019 15:12

She sounds extremely annoying.

Accept nothing from her, and expect nothing from her. Certainly never pay for anything you don't want or need.

Purplecatshopaholic · 03/01/2019 15:13

Don't do it. She has form for not paying. She sounds tight and that's not an attractive trait in anyone

Juells · 03/01/2019 15:13

Sorry Mum is this your treat or a early birthday gift?
Mum is this a treat coffee or are you expecting a contribution later?

Ask every time

^^ This. She's being really mean - giving you 'treats' that you end up paying for yourself.

rabbitfoodadvocate · 03/01/2019 15:13

Bloody hell. Don't buy it!!

Start rotting up how much it costs to feed her too, so you can buy her a £1 bath bomb for Christmas. See how she bloody likes it!

KAT0779 · 03/01/2019 15:14

Sounds like she thinks you won't notice her spending the money she has promised, similar kind of thing as those people who promise all kinds and it never materialises, she must feel like she has made the grand gesture already by saying she will pay for something.

I see you have replied already about Argos not working but I would honestly just have said "its ok just get it when you are over here" and if she asks why don't you get it or are you struggling for money etc. just say "no I have enough to cover my bills etc." so she might get the message that you are not going to pay for something again to have all kinds of other things that are "her treat" deducted from it.

elephantinstripeysocks · 03/01/2019 15:15

the part that would annoy me most, and im probably missing the point, is that every time she bought a coffee or a takeaway or a jumper you said THANK YOU (i presume). So she got the ONE "baby gift" praise and thanks 7 times. When you were actually spending YOUR money on coffee you were thanking her for it. And she sat in coffee shops looking like the doting mum and granny who spoils everyone. This would piss me off.

GunpowderGelatine · 03/01/2019 15:15

I'm fully expecting the kitchen to never appear. I'm not bothered, one less thing to go grotty in the garden. We're still waiting on an American fridge freezer as our wedding present (she offered to buy and allegedly bought it but it's never shown up or been mentioned since) we've been married 9 years! Grin

Spare a thought for my poor brother though who's son turned 6 on NYE, she isn't seeing them until the summer (lives in Wales far from us) so "I'll buy him his Christmas and birthday present then" (she won't). She can soon spend 300EURO on a sodding pizza oven to entertain her mates though

Of course she can buy all the pizza ovens she likes but it's very off to promise someone something and then forget about it!

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Oldraver · 03/01/2019 15:15

Although I'm not asked much now I refuse to order or pre-pay for anything my Mums asks for.

I've had years of my Mum promising to pay/buy things and it not materialising. I think because she tells me so often ie she will start telling us from about June that she will give us/DS xyz that she convinces herself she has actually give it

Oldraver · 03/01/2019 15:17

Starts telling us from June what she is giving us for Christmas..

FuckingYuleLog · 03/01/2019 15:18

I think you just have to make sure she doesn’t ‘treat’ you to anything when she owes you money. And if you want gifts on birthdays etc don’t let her ‘treat’ you at all. The latter wouldn’t bother me so much as at least she’s not leaving you short but it’s up to you. If she offers you a jumper or whatever that you really like you could always preempt her and say ‘that’s lovely if you want to get it for my birthday’. If you don’t like it so much then just be honest and tell her you’re not that keen.

elephantinstripeysocks · 03/01/2019 15:18

my sister has form of doing things like this. I used to book all family outings and tickets but stopped as she didnt pay me back (despite earning 4x my salary). This past 2 years shes booked things. She then sends private, individual messages saying "right, you owe me £60 for yours." Fine, I always send it across. However then when discussing our plans with other people I hear her saying "Oh, ive booked the whole family panto/zoo tickets. thought everyone deserved a trear". making it sound like she paid. and theres only so many times you can shout "oh, sister, did you get the £60 i sent across for ours?".

Holidayshopping · 03/01/2019 15:19

My MIL is good at grandiose offers-and I expect tells all her fronts how much they ‘treat’ us, but they often don’t actually materialise.

Holidayshopping · 03/01/2019 15:20

If she offers you a jumper or whatever that you really like you could always preempt her and say ‘that’s lovely if you want to get it for my birthday’

Good idea

Santaisfastasleepatlast · 03/01/2019 15:20

Make it your new year's resolution not to fa for her antics again.
She wants the glory of being generous without actually putting her hand in her purse.
Cf of 2019 so far!!

category12 · 03/01/2019 15:23

Do you ever mention the american fridge freezer that never was? What would happen if you did?

BaeBae · 03/01/2019 15:23

My mum is like this. Sent me an invoice after I’d got married for items she said she’d buy for me (on her Harvey Nichols account 🤣), and another one for posh baby clothes she said she wanted to buy for my DD. Stupidly paid them too!