So much negativity about brexit....

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Is anyone looking forward to it? Did anyone who vote leave happy they voted it? Or regretful?

So, what do you think, OP?

Or is this a sort of survey?

Don’t be too hard on the OP. She was just asking, not enjoying the anguish.

KennDodd
I don't think it's that though, I think lots of people honestly believe it will be great and good for the economy. Have a look at the comments under Brexit stories on the BBC news website to see what I mean.

I avoid the BBC so I haven't seen that, but I have doubts about the veracity of comments I've seen in other places insisting that it will be great, not least because no one can actually explain why. I have seen leavers admitting it will be bad, but blaming the EU for that and then saying even bad will be great because, reasons.

I genuinely believe we have a section of society who are extremely nihilistic.

Shit stirring bollocks.

IIRC, the Silver Surfer was the scout for Putin Galactus, the destroyer of worlds.

This what Silversurfer said a year ago
_I voted Leave because I truly believe that it will ultimately be the best thing for this country. I also happen to think that the EU will likely collapse but won't put a timescale on it.

I didn't vote Leave because Farage said I should, nor for the removal of EU residents or immigrants, nor did I believe the NHS would get millions of pounds extra every day, nor for any of the reasons Remainers mostly assume.

I did a huge amount of research, both for and against. Although I had patiently waited for many years to be given the opportunity to vote Leave I still thought it was important to try to understand the remainers' point of view.

Personally I don't want the UK run by unelected, unaccountable gravy train politicians in Brussels; I want our Government to pass laws that are best for the country and its people.

We need border controls, not to keep everyone out but to have the choice about who to allow in. EU people currently here who work and contribute should be allowed to remain and we should invite others to come here if they have the skills we need. However, I think those currently in jail and their families, should be returned whence they came at the end of their sentence. I agree with the Government paying millions of aid to Syrian camps and bringing some of the families from the camps here. I disagree with opening the borders to the mostly young, male economic migrants from a variety of countries who are trying to get into the country.

Before the EU collapses I believe they will try to forge closer union, among other things possibly the creation of an EU Army with which I disagree.

Allowing countries like Greece to join the EU despite its perilous financial situation at the time has resulted in a disaster for Greece.

Several EU countries have high unemployment and are in economic difficulty. I don't want the UK paying for that.

I want us to regain control of our fishing waters_

So much for only wanting high skilled people we now have a shortage of workers -already.

We could opt out of a European army

We don’t have to join the euro

I quite like extended maternity rights , paternity rights and the environmental laws the Eu has made us have. I remember the ones we used to have with a shudder.

@Itinerary I am not looking forward to Brexit (voted remain) but my dp voted Leave for the reasons you have mentioned, you have explained them better than I could but I was going to say something like that as reasons.

My italics didn’t work quoting Silversurfer. Please don’t lambast me . As many will realise, I am a Remainer .

My good friend has left the UK and has returned to her native EU Country because of the racism she's suffered from brexiteer morons who are looking for a non-existent paradise. Most of this Country's ills are perpetuated by succesive UK governments so leaving the EU will not reverse them nor will it improve my 20 yrs old dds prospects of a future so if a young person can recognise a dumb idea why can't brexiteers

Can't believe someone has spewed out the old EU army nonsense. We already have military cooperation cross borders and that is vital in maintaining peace and defending our nations should someone declare war. The notion that we can cherry pick who we want to help is ridiculous, and would almightily bite us on the arse if we were attacked. If we were to stop working with our EU (and UN) allies in times of peace on defence matters, they would have every right to tell us to fuck right off in times of war.

Unless you think Trump is going to come to our rescue. Ha ha!

There are of course people happy about it. But they aren't likely to explain why because their reasons tend to be racist. They are stupid enough to vote for it, but not stupid enough to announce it publicly.

There was an interesting article in yesterday's Times about the WTO which ended with the author saying that he didn't think Brexit was a crazy idea but he did think the way it had been handled was crazy.

I know some people (posted here and elsewhere) have said they are unhappy about paying into an EU system that spends money like water and has no proper auditing. That is a sensible argument. I don't think it outweighs the advantages of staying but people are entitled to their opinions when they are well reasoned.

Not sure why being an EU citizen is so awful. If you don't want to make use of the benefits it provides you don't. Stay in the UK. But you don't have to be a dog in the manger for those who do like holidaying, working, and studying in an EEA country.

I want our Government to pass laws that are best for the country and its people.

I recall Silverysurfer votes Conservative. I wonder if she is happy about the laws that have reduced employment rights, and increased poverty and homelessness to levels never seen before in most of our lifetimes. Or is she one of those that proudly boasts of record high employment, ignoring that "employment" counts as anything from one hour a fortnight, and that hard working families are having to try to manage on zero hour contracts.

Could you comment please @Silverysurfer, on which EU laws you do not agree with, and which of the current government's actions you suggest are best for the people of the UK?

As a disabled parent of two children with special needs, who up until last year had a wonderful future in academia promised, I'm desperately looking forward to not being able to take medication which prevents me from being a vegetable and stops me from functioning to the bare minimum I already do. I'm looking forward to never finding employment which will take on board my needs, and to seeing my children out of work their entire lives because there aren't enough jobs for the quick and abled never mind us less able people. I'm looking forward to the repeated explaining of myself to others to let them know I am not a racist and didn't vote to leave.

"But you don't have to be a dog in the manger for those who do like holidaying, working, and studying in an EEA country."

Countless people lived, worked, travelled and studied in Europe before the EU existed. It really wasn't that difficult...

@Itinerary
You have lots of patience!

Everybody else.
Look at what you've written and try really really hard to think why leavers might not be responding. Really think. If you still can't work it out, try to imagine a different situation. Imagine a group of parents discussing being a sahm.
Person a - what is the benefit of being a sahm?
Person b - oooh yes please tell us. What could POSSIBLY be the benefit?
Person c - you'd have to be thick, uneducated and really stupid to see any benefit.
Person d - and racist.
Person e - I can't wait to hear this benefit. Come on tell us.
Person f, g, h, I, i, k, l, - the same as above using different words.

Persons m- here's a few benefits.

Person a-l - don't be so stupid.

Persons n-z. Give up.

All debate has been removed by so many numpties (oh the irony).

Of course we have military co-operation across borders. This does not require political unification with 27 other countries.

"Countless people lived, worked, travelled and studied in Europe before the EU existed. It really wasn't that difficult..."
I was one of them and actually it was a bit difficult. I'm from an impoverished background but with a family history of trying our luck as youngsters in other countries. If you didn't have that history you didn't really do it if you were from my economic background. FOM made it easier for people from my economic background.

Trouble is, arethereany, person m has not said anything at all except "it will be good".

All debate has been removed by so many numpties (oh the irony).

I haven't been on recent Brexit threads, but from the time before and shortly after the referendum, all pro-Brexit reasons were lies, misunderstandings or from ignorance.

There's a good reason why Pro-Brexit ministers and campaigners have done a disappearing act or shown to be willfully ignorant about the realities of a Brexit.

Person m is also usually able to be discredited by the actual facts, but don't let that stop you feeling hard done by.

I'm looking forward to watching the drama unfold over the next few months as the fail to agree on anything.

I'm not worried about the consequences. 2008 was meant to be the worst financial crisis in history. I didn't notice any day to day changes then.

If we can't fly to Europe, I will stay in the UK. If they have run out of things in the supermarket, I will eat what they do have.

Before Christmas, prominent Brexiteers were concerned that Brexit was being stolen.

I really fucking wish it was

Can anyone list 3 benefits of leaving? (Actual tangible benefits that didn't exist before).