AIBU to think that other than some people being upset or angry, there are no downsides for the UK if Brexit doesn't happen ?

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I can't think of any downsides to the UK not brexiting other than some of the population being upset for a bit. Can anyone else ?

@BlueJag no, dear, you're very sensible and everyone is just horrid.

I also don't think leavers would riot. That is just their version of 'project fear'.

I think there is more a risk of civil disobedience if there is a no deal Brexit, and if it happens I expect it to be triggered by fuel shortages or increases in petrol prices, along the lines of the French gilets jaunes.

@bellinisurge the pot calling the kettle comes to mind.

The downsides are all 'only' political.

But that's quite a big 'only'.

Actually, the universal stupidity-indicator, whether or not a person voted Leave, is hostility towards migrants. If you object to the free movement of human beings, you are a vicious moron, end of. There is no justification for hostility to migrants. None at all. It's something encouraged by the wealthy and powerful to turn the poor against each other rather than directing their rage against the corrupt authorities who condone and encourage wealth hoarding.

If another vote is called we've lost the democracy. It isn't a democracy its a well just keep voting until we get what we want state. And tbh that's laughable in itself.

@ClaryFray democracy is not a single event.

Democracy does not mean one thing. Democracy describes a system that can be constructed and enacted in a number of different ways.

Th U.K. is a representative democracy where parliament is sovereign. Parliament makes the decisions for the people it can not be controlled by a referendum or held by decisions of a previous parliament.

A second referendum would be legal, constitutional and democratic.

Apologies to all who have read this many times before.

Indeed so reanimated, note the reawakened venom over the past few days regarding the Channel route and the poor sods trying it. Understand there's a compassionate Minister commenting today that they're not "genuine" asylum seekers. Maybe they just fancy a day out on a leaky boat.

@Moussemoose so if we have another referendum and still leave then what?
Vote again?

I am a remainer , but my objection to the first vote is that there was no detail. Brexit is a slogan it’s not a concrete proposal. I am still baffled that people voted for the complete unknown, I am the first to admit that the EU isn’t perfect , but I cannot believe being in the EU is worse than jumping into the unknown . However , if there was a second vote where people actively voted to leave the EU in the knowledge of what that would mean for them , for their families and for the country , then I would accept that. What I cannot accept is that we are stumbling into the unknown because we didn’t understand what we were doing .

What peaseblossom said.

So what are the chances of it not happening, does anyone know?
My dh is a bit of a conspiracist I'd hate him to be right about it not happening.

Put a fiver on at the bookies just in case.

If we have another referendum on a specific deal and the electorate advise parliament to leave then, it is up to the MPs. If parliament votes to leave , we leave.

And once we leave democracy will continue, some people will start a campaign to rejoin and others will oppose them.

And if we stay then those who want us to leave will continue to campaign and others will oppose them.

Democracy, opposition and debate will continue.

Hopefully, we will see the end of referendums are they are so unsuitable for the U.K..

Brexit should not and WILL not be cancelled. SORRY and all that!

I am a new fan of Sajid Javid though.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/02/people-crossing-channel-not-genuine-asylum-seekers-javid

Some liberal lefties have been frothing a bit though, obviously, but EVERYthing he said, is true.

Also, a petition online (to come down hard on economic migrants) has already got 10s of 1000's of signatures.

The worm is turning people, and a fresh, new BRITAIN is on the horizon.

Throw all your hate and bigot and 'thick chav' accusations at me as much as you like. I don't give a shiny shit. I am very happy right now. BREXIT is just around the corner...........

Sorry @redandyellowandpinkandgreen99 could you just explain a little bit more.

How are Brexit and economic migrants and refugees linked?

Brexit will stop FOM. Economic migration and asylum seekers don't tend to come from Western European countries so your point is......?

@chillpizza

If the options are crash out or leave but keep a foot in the door so not really leave. I’d say crash out, there is no point in leaving to stay getting no say but being expected to follow.

I am pissed off with hearing people say 'CRASH OUT' of the EU with no deal!' Like if we leave without a deal it will be disastrous, and we will all regret it.

That's just what the remoaners want to happen.

It won't.

Short term as a leaver I only see us being seen as a joke across the world. I'm not sure there would be riots not the British way! However the backlash would start at the next election with a majority of leave voters abandoning the main 3 parties. At best your looking at them abstaining, at worst you could see UKIP take power with the largest majority since Blair won.

How are Brexit and economic migrants and refugees linked?

PMSL, you did NOT seriously just ask that?!!

Sickmaking. Sajid's family were economic migrants. Will he send them "home"? And go with them? Perhaps you'll give them a hand.

A JOKE across the world? The UK?

Not a chance.

As soon as we leave the EU, others will follow.

The EU will be dead before the end of the 2020s...... And good riddance.

Assume I'm an idiot. Explain to me why people seeking asylum from oppression in Eritrea are a Brexit issue.

Not a chance

We already are. HTH.

Boney my fifth is of the UK population as a whole, it was slightly more than a fifth, but 100% of the population will be effected by Brexit and I believe MP's have a duty to all their constituents, not just those who they think may have voted for them.

So which leavers on here would never vote again or would automatically vote for a party further right than the current Conservatives, the next time an opportunity to vote occurs ?

I'd also be grateful for an explanation of the link between Brexit and refugees. Even racists love the first but hate the second.