Disgusted at how the UK government will charge EU nationals £65 and no iPhone app

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Even if someone has been here working hard and paying tax for decades they will have to pay £65 to stay and there's only an android app to apply not even an iPhone app!

@Iliketeaagain same here, but I am the EU one and DH British

I am just relieved I did it all for me and DC, and DH of course

It's new rules and making the people that keep the NHS running and pay more in tax than they take feel unwelcome and its disgusting.
This is not true - there are far more non EU nationals 'keeping the NHS running' and Brexit will not affect this in any way.

When choosing to move to the UK, presumably, all EU migrants knew that they wouldn't have the same democratic rights here as they do in their own country?
This is true, I admit to this.
I also moved here because it was such a diverse and welcoming country...

People will need to move back to their respective countries of origin, however ridiculous that sounds after 30 years, or obtain local citizenship. £65 does not sound like a large fee, if that's all it is
Ironically my grandparents were British but moved to another country due to the war and had to give up their British nationality to live there. My OH parents were children of the war and taken from their country to the UK. My OH is therefore less of a Brits by decent than I am, but I'm the one who'd have to move back to my country, how ironic!

I don't understand how paying £65 for something you were promised would remain free can possibly be described as 'a bargain'.

And if indeed this is the result of Brexit, the NHS will collapse, so so much for losing fre access to it, everyone will ha e to pay...to afford to pay for foreign consultants and nurses to come and work here!

"How about doing it for free, given that it is not the fault of the EU citizens currently living here legally?"

"It's new rules and making the people that keep the NHS running and pay more in tax than they take feel unwelcome"

So now not only do British people not pay a penny in tax, or spend any money in our economy, we now don't work in Social/Health Care? I we t to a few tourist spots/christmas markets and the people keeping it safe and walking round with guns, all had British accents, so I'd assume EEs aren't staffing our security/police/arny etc. There's about one EE out of 50, bus drivers. I could go on.

There's some absolute bullshit bring spotted on this thread.

""The process would still have to be funded. Where would you like to Government to make cuts to find this funding?""

Times are hard for lots of groups of people. People are losing upto £200 a week under Universal Credit. People who had no photo ID had to be given loans, so they could access online benefit account and job interviews. These are people born here, generations back.

I also moved here because it was such a diverse and welcoming country...

The events of the last two years are evidence that was probably a misjudgement on your part, I'm afraid.

Either things have changed, or 'we' never were as welcoming as we made out

swingofthings it is ludicrous, I don't like it either.

I don't understand how paying £65 for something you were promised would remain free can possibly be described as 'a bargain'.

Promised? By whom? No country guarantees an unchanging immigration policy.

This is not true - there are far more non EU nationals 'keeping the NHS running' and Brexit will not affect this in any way
OH the logic! At the moment, the NHS is just about managing to remain safe overall. However, there is huge concern for the ne t 5 to 10 years as the average age of UK nurses mean that a large proportion of them will retire by then. Young Brits are not much interested in studying to work for the NHS because of its reputation so yes, unless something drastic happens in the next 5-10 years, without support from the EU and rest of the world, the NHS will not cope, especially with the increase demand on services.

Well it’s cost money to administrate visas. What else is the government supppsed to do? Take out even more debt? Not nornalosd EU nationals’ residency in Britain? The fact of the matter is that EU nations by virtue of no longer having a right under EU law to reside here need a deferent right to reside. It costs money to administer this right. It’s not like the government is asking for a prohibitive sum. Nor is it just saying it can’t be bothered with EU nationals who came here under EU rights and chucking them out. You are getting offended over nothing here.

we t to a few tourist spots/christmas markets and the people keeping it safe and walking round with guns, all had British accents, so I'd assume EEs aren't staffing our security/police/arny etc.
You really went there?
Well my DH is one of those and would be ashamed to hear this. He would also leave with us if we were to 🤔

£65 really is nothing to be outraged over. It's the admin fee for processing the documents, and a one-off.

My husband is a non EU immigrant we have had to pay thousands I would be very happy to have only paid £65

The money will no doubt be for processing the applications etc, shall we all pay a bit more tax to cover the cost? it’s £65.

@seingofthings the NHS can always find nationals from developing/unstable nations who are desperate to move to a common they live he Britain to under pay and over work. Cheap labour really is a non issue within the broader context of all the myriad of ways that the NHS is fucked up.

The events of the last two years are evidence that was probably a misjudgement on your part, I'm afraid.
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Either things have changed, or 'we' never were as welcoming as we made out* 
It still is, if you know where to look and whom to listen

My husband is a non EU immigrant we have had to pay thousands I would be very happy to have only paid £65
Please stop comparing these scenarios 🤦🏻‍♀️

I'll be really intrested to know if anyone is being refused via this process and on what grounds, if everyone is just being registered then the squeezing will come later.
I was refused twice under the existing EU residence scheme (the new one is essentially the same, but now it becomes compulsory rather than optional, and automated via an app).
First time the officer must have misread my application and refused on the grounds that I did not provide my ex-husbands death certificate. I was quite puzzled by this as at no point have I stated that he is dead - actually to the best of my knowledge he was quite well, and I included a divorce certificate with the application pack.
The second time I was refused as I did not send my ex's original passport (I did not have any contact with him for almost a year at that point, and even if I did, I doubt very much that he would just hand over his passport to be locked away for the application that takes 6+ months). My ex had absolutely nothing to do with the application.

I took the Home Office to the tribunal, almost a year passed before the hearing date was set and they conceded only the day before the hearing (at this point, of course, I had a barrister booked and incurred full solicitors' fees for the preparation). The Home Office never bothered to answer any legal correspondence or send any bundles or documents required by the court procedural rules.
The applications were £65 each indeed - the legal fees were in excess of £8K (and thankfully the barrister had charged only a "stand-by" fee). I am VERY sceptical of this "new" registration scheme.

Have to say, the young EU nationals I know here -all professionals, some of whom are working in shortage subjects in teaching - are simply leaving. Not sure that was ever the intended outcome of this nonsense.

I hope UK nationals in Europe are experiencing similar inconveniences.

£65 is a lot of money to some. There is a further question as a pp said about whether this is all it is. Are there going to be more changes in future that these fully legitimate and integrated people are just going to have to 'suck up' as your attitude has it? Darker applications are possible too, and they will have no reason to trust the establishment (as many of us native-born don't either).

This whole Brexit is an absolute farce. It was always going to be messy, it could never be anything else, and it has real consequences that result in real resentment. We've swapped a bunch of allies for a bunch of internal and external causes to dislike us, and for what? A dream of empire?

coldheartwarmhands

Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and Priti Patel: www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/eu-migrants-rights-theresa-may-florence-speech-brexit-a7962911.html

(Admittedly, not names high up on my 'autotrust' list.)

These are people born here, generations back
Oh the assumption! I'm generation back, can I be exemptt then? My oh isn't generation back, should he pay £65?
@Racecsrdriver, so you wa t to get rid of EU workers but welcome nhs workers from poor nations, people whose education could possibly not be of the standard of EU workers. Where's the logic there?

ohreally - well I left the EU and came back. I don't like being back. Thanks for asking.