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Disgusted at how the UK government will charge EU nationals £65 and no iPhone app

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Rosepetalgeranium · 29/12/2018 08:30

Even if someone has been here working hard and paying tax for decades they will have to pay £65 to stay and there's only an android app to apply not even an iPhone app!

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Hoppinggreen · 30/12/2018 17:40

I’m not looking forward to trying to explain this to my 91 year old Great Auntie who fled Austria when Hitler took over and had to leave some of her family behind who she never heard of again
Makes me ashamed ( although I voted against this shit storm)

Vivianebrezilletbrooks · 30/12/2018 17:45

Yes it is unfair to people who've lived here decades etc and made businesses/paid taxes for years. I'm actually wondering when this bill was passed? Perhaps it was pushed through while the non existent drone story was all over the media thus allowing a nice little distraction....! Hmm

WeakAsIAm · 30/12/2018 17:47

I trained in a profession that became registered we were told we needed to pay a one off fee to register. Eventually thus was turned into a yearly fee, today I have to pay £120 for the privilege of doing my job. I did get any benefits for this no additional NHS access to free education policing housing or benefits.
As PP have already said get over yourselves, entitled does not even cover it.

Stardust91 · 30/12/2018 17:47

Might be a stupid question but how will the uk government know who needs to apply and who doesn't? How will they go about notifying people that they need to make their applications or leave, ie send a letter? Apart of course from spreading the information through the media and basically saying to EU nationals, right you need to come forward and do this and this.

Tessabelle1 · 30/12/2018 17:51

Espically as EU immigrants contribute more to the economy than British born people!
Please show your proof for this ridiculously bigoted statement!

coldheartwarmhands · 30/12/2018 17:52

I'm actually wondering when this bill was passed? Perhaps it was pushed through while the non existent drone story was all over the media thus allowing a nice little distraction....!

As far as I can work out, it hasn't been! It's part of the Draft Withdrawal Agreement which has yet to be finally accepted by either side.

It's being implemented in advance of Brexit being agreed - If the Withdrawal Agreement falls through, then "Settled Status" may not hold any weight in British Law.

DeepanKrispanEven · 30/12/2018 17:53

Although I would hope that even this government won't be stupid enough to withdraw from the ECHR, TotesEmosh is right that Brexit is quite likely to lead to a rise in demands for ever more right wing policies like restoring the death penalty. There were and are an awful lot of Leave voters who genuinely think that leaving the EU means abandoning the EHCR and the Human Rights Act, and they are going to be extremely vocal when the dreadful truth is brought home to them. Witness also all the idiots assuming the day after the referendum that all immigrants were about to be kicked out, even non-EU immigrants.

coldheartwarmhands · 30/12/2018 17:54

How will they go about notifying people that they need to make their applications or leave, ie send a letter?

They won't. The responsibility will be on the immigrant to check they are still eligible to remain.

LumpsMum · 30/12/2018 17:55

Today 17:47 Stardust91

Might be a stupid question but how will the uk government know who needs to apply and who doesn't? How will they go about notifying people that they need to make their applications or leave, ie send a letter? Apart of course from spreading the information through the media and basically saying to EU nationals, right you need to come forward and do this and this.

To apply for my NI number I had provide my nationality.
I have had regular emails from the Home Office about the window for applications starting in March etc.
They know I’m here.
They know this about other EU nationals.

redsummershoes · 30/12/2018 17:56

How will they go about notifying people that they need to make their applications or leave, ie send a letter?

I suspect the enforcement onus will be on employers, landlords and banks.
no legal status - no job, no bank account, no home...

Gth1234 · 30/12/2018 17:57

The more they charge the better. That's what the EU is doing to us, isn't it?

TheNavigator · 30/12/2018 17:57

Not to mention the many people who came here as children, grew up, got qualifications, partners, jobs, homes etc. And suddenly knuckle headed leavers are asking why they never applied for citizenship. Why would they? They grew here as of right and have happily lived here, not as migrants, but as ordinary members of the UK working population. Can you really not even begin to grasp how it feels to suddenly be told you need to apply to remain in your own home and job with your family? How would you feel about such spectacular, nasty, baseless goal post moving? As a Brit, I feel deeply ashamed of this country. So ashamed. We have behaved appallingly and cheapened ourselves in the eyes of others.

LumpsMum · 30/12/2018 18:00

The Navigator
Posts like yours make me feel better. Grin

DGRossetti · 30/12/2018 18:04

Might be a stupid question but how will the uk government know who needs to apply and who doesn't?

It won't. So in future, anyone with a funny name or accent might find themselves being asked to prove their right to be in the UK.

I'll repeat that. Anyone. Could be you. Could be me. Although it's less likely to be me, on account of a plum accent and white skin.

(A brexiteer will be along in a moment to decry that as ridiculous with fuck all to back them up).

LumpsMum · 30/12/2018 18:08

Because I’m pale as can be with blue eyes and rosy cheeks I often get told all sorts about immigrants by my clients. When I point out that I am one I get told they don’t mean immigrants “like me”. Nice. Hmm
Also, no matter who you mean I’ll be treated the same. Confused

user1467536289 · 30/12/2018 18:09

Fuckyousanta

Exactly - totally agree!

Teacher22 · 30/12/2018 18:12

I am living on a pension and even I think sixty five quid is diddly squat.

Itisabigworld · 30/12/2018 18:23

Three things.

  1. As as European It costs 10.60 to register as resident in Spain. So much less than £65.
  2. You have to APPLY (not register) even if you have "indefinite leave to remain" stamped in your passport as is the case for people who immigrated to the UK many years ago.
  3. Yes, in the rest of the EU there a rules you have to meet after staying there for more than 3 months. You can't get free health care, benefits etc unless you have a job, have an ID card and pay social security. The UK decided to ignore these rules which is why the UK has more immigration. Immigration is a major reason why so many people voted to leave as if this was an EU created issue whereas it was actually due to the UK government's misjudgment of the UK population's attitude to immigration. BREXIT is a disgrace!
pinkstripeycat · 30/12/2018 18:25

I think those who voted to leave the EU did so hoping it would stop so many people entering the UK and then not contributing. I doubt it even entered their heads that long standing residents who were settled with jobs and families would be penalised (for want of a better word). I wish the Government would spend some time getting the lazy arse gits in this country (born here or not) doing something for their job seekers allowance (the ones who have no intention of EVER getting a job) like maybe litter picking.....

SantaClauseMightWork · 30/12/2018 18:26

It is £65 for the time being. Immigrants from non-EU countries are charged a lot more than this. That kept increasing, way way above the inflation rate or for any sensible or justifiable reason. Now, it takes 1000s of £s to extend visas per person for these families. Every two years or so until they are eligible for ILR or passport. Where will this will go then? It’s just a start.

Pluckedpencil · 30/12/2018 18:27

You know what's really fucked up? Marrying someone else in the EU and thinking when you have kids you will have freedom of movement between countries, and then your family becoming a prisoner of one of those countries because you don't earn over an arbitrary threshold. Seriously unfair.

DarlingNikita · 30/12/2018 18:28

It’s hateful and cuntish and it makes me even more ashamed of the UK, in the context of Brexit, than I was already.
Perhaps most egregious is that it flies in the face of the Leave campaign’s pre-referendum ‘promise’.

DGRossetti · 30/12/2018 18:32

Perhaps most egregious is that it flies in the face of the Leave campaign’s pre-referendum ‘promise’.

Not a single "promise" they have made is going to be honoured. Not one. There's some stuff bubbling under in the press which will start coming out in the new year.

The thing is Brexiteers don't care .

Stardust91 · 30/12/2018 18:46

@LumpsMum
Hmm, i suppose you have a point about the NI number. I have one as well but as an EU national I haven't received any emails about applying.
I wasn't even aware of this until i saw this thread! Blush
Maybe I am not on their radar yet.

It won't. So in future, anyone with a funny name or accent might find themselves being asked to prove their right to be in the UK.
I wonder what proof those with settled stats will have to show. For example, will the government give them a certificate as proof.

TheNavigator · 30/12/2018 18:47

Brexiteers really don;t seem to care at all. It is all 'tra la la, I could afford £65 on my pension, why should I give a shiny fuck about anyone'. I cannot comprehend that mindset but selfishness has been legitimised to such an extent by Brexit, it really is a hostile environment. I don't think anyone should feel too smug they can afford it on a pension - if there is going to be no one to provide for their care needs in old age then they are fucked as well, really. Empathy matters, it makes society work and the country better for all of us.