To wonder if middle class children appear more ‘scruffy’

[Workingclass]

Went to a Childs party today for an old school friends DD (they are incredibly middle class) and her group of mum friends (who are equally as middle class)

I admit I don’t usually socialise in many middle class circles but I couldn’t help but notice that all of the children looked... scruffy, for want of a better word.

None of them had brushed their hair, they were all in mismatched clothes with muck on their faces. Didn’t look bathed..

I feel awful saying it, but I notice this also with the MC children at the DC school, has anyone else noticed it? I’m just curious as to why this seems to be a thing? Does my dds plaits and dresses ‘out’ her as having a working class family?

Is it more of a privilege thing? We don’t have much money so am weary of being judged as lazy by not doing her hair, I also make an effort to dress her nicely so she doesn’t look like ‘the poor kid’ is it that if your middle class you don’t have that fear?

Absolutely happy to be told IABU and judgemental but I am genuinely curious on the subject.

Which sector are you hiring for? Not scaring profession I imagine..,

I only iron about once a month but I buy clothes that don’t really crease & thank god Ive never had to wear suits or shirts for work.

Hiring manager?Professional people aren’t hired,they’re appointed
And many mc people have in demand skills that mean they are sought after
So the scrutiny will be of experience and skills not familiarity with hairbrush
Creatives are not expected to conform,and there’s is an expectation of individuality

I'd agree that being middle class isn't all about salary - you can often tell just by someone's demeanour and the manner in which they articulate things. Plenty of 'chavvy' rich people around with horrible blingy cars etc.

I personally value intelligence and ambition but beyond that couldn't give a shit about class. One of the mates I respect the most has built a groundwork company out of nothing and is doing extremely well. He is decidedly WC and one of the most pleasant guys you could meet.

I've also got a few mates (more acquantainces) with fairly decent corporate jobs who try and act almost as if they were in Wolf of Wall Street etc and it really makes me cringe - wearing a suit to the pub and making a point of buying expensive rounds, talking about their cars, humblebrags about being a Director (of a three man company), etc.

Pride is not a good thing. It's the deadliest of all sins, after all!

What is middle class? Are you defining them By the size of house they live in, the cars they arrived in, the accent they have, schools etc? I find this a sad reflection of society when you feel the need to box us into categories then criticise people within a category. Maybe they just like wearing comfortable clothes and care more about other things than appearances.

"Who lets their children leave the house without brushed hair?!"

I do. It's not worth the meltdown it would create.

Odious. Calling someone odious for not brushing a two year olds hair, makes them a bigot.

That person is a bigot. I stand by it and will repeat it if prompted.

Call me a twat if you want.

I have enormous amounts of pride in my kids. Just not in hair brushing or clothes. And I don't really get the correlation with namby pamby entitledness tbh. Yes, I do think I am above ironing to be honest. I think everyone's time is worth more than that, except for work clothes and weddings. It's just unnecessary.

Do those who don’t think brushing a child’s hair is important all have children without Afro type hair?

I couldn’t imagine not doing my child’s hair everyday, it would look awful, become matted and attract comments.

But I work in tech start-ups, which are crammed to the rafters with jumped up privileged little shts.*

Well, you're the one hiring them...

I feel sorry for people who mak decisions on how to raise their kids based on how best to secure a corporate job when they grow up.

Yes, I do think I am above ironing to be honest.
Cycling Christ did you really type that? Who’ll iron then if not you m’lady?
The hired help?

This thread is ace.

‘We’re far too busy canoeing and making fires in the woods to brush our hair. ‘

It’s proper twattery.

Creatives are not expected to conform,and there’s is an expectation of individuality
I used to work with creatives. They all conformed to what their "tribe" rules were.

And my children are noy brats, they’re lovely and friendly and have a fab life

What makes them shits and you the model of impeccable manners then hamster?

I am amazed at the person saying they don't own a hairbrush. I know my own hair would become matted if I rarely or never brushed it.

I'm a weirdo. I'm a rabid ironer, however, while I require hair and teeth to have been brushed before leaving the house (well, for them to be able to credibly tell me they have been washed and brushed), if they can then say in all honesty they've been practicing their handstands/yoga/pilates and that's why their hair now looks like shit again, I'm going to sigh, roll my eyes, open the door and kiss them goodbye. . .

I quite like working my way through a big pile of ironing - radio on, cup of tea. It's soothing. But it's not necessary.

It’s definitely a thing. A particular signifier especially for the middle-middle/upper middle classes. It is meant to show you are secure and not worried about ‘stuff’.

And maybe it is based on where you live, as well. Where I live most of the children have artfully tousled long hair, well worn stripy jumpers, cords/tartan trousers or skirts and are called Ottilie or Hugo. Mine included :) My sons go to a school with no uniform but all the pupils still look the same anyway.

It’s the same principle as getting dressed up to go to the theatre. You just...don’t.

Cycling Christ did you really type that? Who’ll iron then if not you m’lady?

Did you actually read their post? They said everybody should be above ironing