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(More) Money for adult children

104 replies

Returning2thesceneofthecrime · 27/12/2018 13:27

DSD has just has (another) car accident. Her fault. Her insurance excess is 2k because she wanted a very low premium and because of her previous claims.

DH got a call from his Ex today asking if he will pay half because she is broke. We recently all spoke about DSD’s continuing financial crises and agreed that enough was enough, no more bank of mum and dad. But they are now both wavering. To be fair, this is something I think is significant enough to want to help with however it comes at the end of a very expensive year in which we have already given her thousands (literally, thousands).

Phone call from Ex was followed by DH calling DSD. DSD did not ask us for the money, she just assumed it would be forthcoming. The word ‘please’ was not used in the conversation but she’ll let us know when she needs the money so we can transfer it directly to her account.

Would it be unreasonable to say ‘hell, no’ based on previous expenditure and lack of manners?

Am I being unreasonable even thinking that because I do recognise how useful a car is and that it makes her life significantly easier?

The assumption is that it would be a gift. Would it be unreasonable to insist on a written loan agreement with family? I don’t think it is likely to be paid back but perhaps if she officially owed us money, she would think twice about demanding more?

I absolutely recognise that I am becoming quite judgemental of her but the assumptions, lack of manners and lack of gratitude for the thousands she has received thus far are beginning to grate on me. Help me see this clearly!

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PublicReactions · 27/12/2018 13:29

I would leave it to the parents, do you have any hobbies that could bring you joy today?

Piewife · 27/12/2018 13:30

Of course it wouldn't be unreasonable to say hell no, she's an adult! Sounds like she's fleeced you enough already!!

HollowTalk · 27/12/2018 13:30

I'd be judgemental, too! She's learning nothing at all about being adult if people pay for everything for her and there are no consequences to her actions.

TeenTimesTwo · 27/12/2018 13:30

How old?
How long driving?
Living at home or independently?
Working?
Have you been allowed access to her budget and spending info?

Puggles123 · 27/12/2018 13:33

Don’t do it! My brother was the same and now in his late 30’s is still asking for money for things which he could afford and are his fault. Probably the intention with the insurance was assuming someone else would pay the excess so could get away with small monthly payments.

Chloe84 · 27/12/2018 13:33

I would leave it to the parents, do you have any hobbies that could bring you joy today?

What a twatty response, are you the DSD? Hmm

OP, I would say no. She hasn't learnt a bloody thing.

Holidayshopping · 27/12/2018 13:33

We recently all spoke about DSD’s continuing financial crises and agreed that enough was enough, no more bank of mum and dad.

Was DSD aware of this conversation?! It would seem not in the light of this...

Phone call from Ex was followed by DH calling DSD. DSD did not ask us for the money, she just assumed it would be forthcoming. The word ‘please’ was not used in the conversation but she’ll let us know when she needs the money so we can transfer it directly to her account.

I wouldn’t arrange a loan that she will (or won’t?) pay back. I would just say no. Why does she assume you’ll pay?

JamPasty · 27/12/2018 13:34

Her parents really are doing her no favours by bailing her out like this.

PublicReactions · 27/12/2018 13:34

Posting police are out again. An opinion was asked for and given.

AFOLNerd · 27/12/2018 13:37

My Mum did this with my brother. Every time he was short of money she would bail him out. He would crash cars and she would loan him money for a new one. He has never paid a penny back and probably never will. Finally at 36 my mum has put a stop to it and said no more you need to sort yourself out. He owes her about 30k.

You need to stop now and let her stand on her own two feet, she needs to learn to budget and you aren’t doing her any favours by constantly bailing her out.

yoyo1234 · 27/12/2018 13:42

My response would be to ask how essential the car is. It is a luxury if not needed for work etc. I would then get DH to arrange the details but also ensure she was polite, apologetic and definitely said please. You being able to afford it is essential to. I do think it is harder for young adults now than at some other times to get things sorted ( eg house purchase etc).

Returnofthesmileybar · 27/12/2018 13:42

If your money is pooled there is not a hope in hell I would pay. I think they would actually be doing her a favour, it might teach her some cop on and responsibility, she wanted the lower premiums, she ran the risk and now she deals with the consequences

Returning2thesceneofthecrime · 27/12/2018 13:43

In answer to the questions:

No, I don’t have any hobbies. I lead a very dull life.
She is 30 and has been driving for 12 years.
She lives independently and has been offered budgeting help which she has turned down because she knows it all already.
She assumes we will pay because we did last time she had an accident (about six months ago).

I do get some (small) say in this because DH and I share finances (at his instigation). I have mentioned splitting our finances because I am not happy about being treated like an ATM.

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Knittedfairies · 27/12/2018 13:45

OP, I think you see the situation very clearly. Good luck.

greendale17 · 27/12/2018 13:45

She is 30, keeps crashing cars and expects her parents to continue to bail her out.

No way in hell would I give her any money

TeenTimesTwo · 27/12/2018 13:50

I would only even consider giving/lending on the condition that first she sits down with your DH & you and goes through her finances with a fine toothed comb.

alibongo5 · 27/12/2018 13:51

30!? I was imagining she was about 18! No way should she still be expecting parents to pay her bills, except as an exception and certainly not more than once! And the way that she hasn't even asked but expected it....entitled indeed.

coconutpie · 27/12/2018 13:52

She's 30. I would say no because otherwise she will never learn responsibility. She can take out a loan from a bank herself. Or she can make do with public transport until she can save up to do the repairs. That will make her learn to be more responsible in future. Otherwise you'll still be bailing her out when she is 40/50/60.

Northernpowerhouse · 27/12/2018 13:52

I think as finances are shared then you definitely do get a say.

JamPasty · 27/12/2018 13:53

30!!!!! I too assumed she was late teens! Hell no to giving her any more money!

clarrylove · 27/12/2018 13:55

30?!? No way!

Returnofthesmileybar · 27/12/2018 13:55

30?? And her mother rang to discuss splitting?? She's having a laugh, not a hope in hell!!

EnglishRose13 · 27/12/2018 13:55

I thought this was going to be someone in their late teens too!

Definitely say no.

How does she keep crashing cars? Is she always at fault?

cadburyegg · 27/12/2018 13:57

YANBU. That’s an insane amount of money, particularly as she clearly isn’t grateful for it. She’s 30 ffs, not 17.

My mum and dad bailed out my dad’s children for years. They are now in their late 40s and my mum is finally putting a stop to it because dad has dementia. It doesn’t get better!

Holidayshopping · 27/12/2018 13:57

We recently all spoke about DSD’s continuing financial crises and agreed that enough was enough, no more bank of mum and dad.

Was DSD aware of this conversation?!