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(More) Money for adult children

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Returning2thesceneofthecrime · 27/12/2018 13:27

DSD has just has (another) car accident. Her fault. Her insurance excess is 2k because she wanted a very low premium and because of her previous claims.

DH got a call from his Ex today asking if he will pay half because she is broke. We recently all spoke about DSD’s continuing financial crises and agreed that enough was enough, no more bank of mum and dad. But they are now both wavering. To be fair, this is something I think is significant enough to want to help with however it comes at the end of a very expensive year in which we have already given her thousands (literally, thousands).

Phone call from Ex was followed by DH calling DSD. DSD did not ask us for the money, she just assumed it would be forthcoming. The word ‘please’ was not used in the conversation but she’ll let us know when she needs the money so we can transfer it directly to her account.

Would it be unreasonable to say ‘hell, no’ based on previous expenditure and lack of manners?

Am I being unreasonable even thinking that because I do recognise how useful a car is and that it makes her life significantly easier?

The assumption is that it would be a gift. Would it be unreasonable to insist on a written loan agreement with family? I don’t think it is likely to be paid back but perhaps if she officially owed us money, she would think twice about demanding more?

I absolutely recognise that I am becoming quite judgemental of her but the assumptions, lack of manners and lack of gratitude for the thousands she has received thus far are beginning to grate on me. Help me see this clearly!

OP posts:
DowntonCrabby · 27/12/2018 14:17

30??!!! Fucking hell.

There’s no way I’d support your DH bailing her out. When will she learn? 65 once the bank of m&d are all gone?

LaurieFairyCake · 27/12/2018 14:17

I wouldn't have given her the last lot 6 months ago - never mind today's 'request'

I wouldn't give my 21 year old money like this - she'd be getting the bus if she crashed her car.

Purplecatshopaholic · 27/12/2018 14:18

I think you are picking up the general feeling on here OP. You are not the wicked stepmother, you have been reasonable and supportive to her in the past, but surely as a 30 year old woman she has to stand on her own two feet at some point. I would be mortified and would never have assumed my parents would bail me out in the first place! Just Say No!!

PeroniZuchini · 27/12/2018 14:18

Thirty?!! What a pathetic baby.

She shouldn’t be driving if she keeps having accidents anyway, she sounds like a liability.

Fairenuff · 27/12/2018 14:18

Why did your dh agree to her having a 2k excess in the first place. No way would I make any arrangement like that with my dd.

thebaronetofcockburn · 27/12/2018 14:19

You have a very interesting, albeit erroneous, idea of what projection is, Public. But, as it saves face for you being called out for a twat reply, crack on as it seems to make you feel better.

Have a nice new year.

Thanks! I will! Having a fab time just now. Smile.

WindyNeighbour · 27/12/2018 14:21

30?! If you are happy to help with her financial crises that's one thing but if she's expecting to be bailed out every time at 30 that's ridiculous.

I'd seriously look into splitting your finances if you input the same or more. Until then, you are entitled to have a say!

Dotty1970 · 27/12/2018 14:22

You are total mugs if you give her anything.
I would say no due to how she just redirects it and how much you've given her previously, she sounds like an ungrateful spoilt little brat and is 30 years old ffs!
If you give it you deserve to give her more and more and bail her out forever and don't moan.

Dotty1970 · 27/12/2018 14:22

*expects

Fluffycloudland77 · 27/12/2018 14:25

Right, open a bank account online (ideally one with a switching incentive so you recoup some money) and pay your contribution to bills into the joint account you have now.

Job done.

Your dh and ex’s have pretty much fallen at the first hurdle here with her.

WaxOnFeckOff · 27/12/2018 14:25

Why did your dh agree to her having a 2k excess in the first place. No way would I make any arrangement like that with my dd.

She's 30 and living independently, what excess she chooses to have is no business of anyone other than herself (or partner if they have joint finances) . Equally, it's of no concern to anyone else when she has to pay the excess though.

Dotty1970 · 27/12/2018 14:26

Definitely split finances also

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 27/12/2018 14:27

Yep, big ol' NO WAY from me too.

At 30 she should not be expecting hand outs from her parents every time something goes wrong, and they're doing her no favours long term to keep bailing her out.

Wish someone had told my MIL the same about BIL years ago - now she's got a mid-40s manchild living back in her home because he has zero understanding of money management and the social skills of a dead badger.

WhereYouLeftIt · 27/12/2018 14:29

30? Thirty? THIRTY? THIRTY?

Shock T Shock H Shock I Shock R Shock T Shock Y Shock ??

I really think your husband and his ex need to take a long hard look at themselves for raising a daughter who feels so entitled. And it goes without saying that she absolutely should NOT be bailed out.

(I had thought 19 tops FFS)

DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 27/12/2018 14:29

There is obviously going to be a time where the help has to stop. You'd all agreed to it, so now seems like as good a time as any. There is always going to be another crisis and bailing her out isn't helping. I also agree with splitting your finances as a matter of urgency.

Perhaps if she has to face the consequences, she will be more careful and think things through better, like only having an affordable excess or driving more carefully. My older sister is nearly 50 and still being bailed out by our parents and when they die she will struggle to cope. They have done her no long-term favours at all by treating her like a child.

Fairenuff · 27/12/2018 14:30

She's 30 and living independently, what excess she chooses to have is no business of anyone other than herself (or partner if they have joint finances)

Yes but surely he must have known about it and agree to it. Why else would be dumb enough to fork out for it?

HolesinTheSoles · 27/12/2018 14:30

Bloody hell she's 30? I was wondering whether she was late teens or early 20s! 30 is ridiculous! She'll never learn to be financially independent at this rate! If this was a one off and she rang up and asked for a loan I'd do it without question but after a year of bail outs she need to become responsible.

Babyroobs · 27/12/2018 14:31

It's really hard, although I would tend to agree with others that I would leave it up to the parents to sort out unless its directly your wages which are going to be paying for this. We are in a similar situation with our ds, we help with his car insurance, he crashed his car ( fortunately didn't go through the insurance), we paid for damage to the other car, we paid £700 car repairs, we now are paying for his car tax ( as part of his Christmas present ), he is at Uni and only really keeping his car going so that he continue working at his old place of work which is some miles away and not accessible by public transport ! Where do you stop supporting them financially though, its very hard.

DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 27/12/2018 14:32

Also, prepare for a backlash. The enabling parents of spoilt adult children can get really nasty when challenged. You will definitely be the evil stepmother/ controlling wife once you speak out about this nonsense.

Fairenuff · 27/12/2018 14:33

My older sister is nearly 50 and still being bailed out by our parents and when they die she will struggle to cope. They have done her no long-term favours at all by treating her like a child.

This is exactly what happened to my friend's sister. She's in her 50s and is broke. Living off benefits. No-one to ask for money if her car breaks or her washing machine.

She has no pension and has never saved. Always got money from her parents and when she inherited her share of their estate she blew it on a holiday of a lifetime.

Xenia · 27/12/2018 14:37

It is down to the parents to agfree. You should tell your other half you want separate finances however.

30 is pretty old for that kind of help. I did help one with a car issue at university but that was a much earlier phase when she was a teenager.

WaxOnFeckOff · 27/12/2018 14:39

Yes but surely he must have known about it and agree to it. Why else would be dumb enough to fork out for it?

Still not getting why he would need to know about or agree to another person's insurance policy. Whether he subsequently agrees to bail out the excess (and christ knows how much her insurance/excess will need to be now) is another matter.

Fontofnoknowledge · 27/12/2018 14:39

Glad someone called out the pathetic reply of 'get a hobby' .. posted by PublicReactions (who could barely wait to to rattle a bit of sm bashing off her keyboard)
Nothing more irritating than the perpetuated myth that step mothers should have no input into costs incurred by SC and 'expected' to be covered by dad - with no regard for the fact that most money between couples is family money - and needs to be a joint decision.

Luckily the rest of the posters appear to be a lot better informed and realistic when it comes to blended family finance - especially with adult dc !

This one gets a Cheeky fucker award..

MrsJayy · 27/12/2018 14:45

She is a 30year old woman who has had thousands spent on her bloody hell I couldn't keep my mouth shut she sounds spoiled and ungrateful. that is your husband and his Ex wife fault you reap what you sow and all that. Are you going to say anything?

Patchworksack · 27/12/2018 14:46

It is down to the parents to agree

They did agree - they agreed no more bank of Mum and Dad. Now they need to stick to that agreement. There will always be another crisis requiring a bail out.