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.....to suddenly think in future will it be just as unacceptable for a man to dress up as a woman to be funny as it is for s white person to 'dress-up as a black person??

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Foxy333 · 21/12/2018 11:04

I love Panto and enjoy most of it with my kids. However since becoming more aware of Feminism, when I see a man dressed as panto dame with cheesey cliche female voice and sayings...and hilarious comedy breasts.....desperate to be thought beautiful but actually... ha ha ha! really ugly, it just struck me we are laughing at Women. We are supposed to aren't We? Are comedy breasts funny? Was it hilarious when white people used to mock any stereotypical black characteristics? Aren't they the same outdated attitude? Reminds me of carry on films growing up when laughing at young women, ugly women was acceptable but isn't now.

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Hulloa · 21/12/2018 14:37

Evemary surely the fact that women in other countries are treated as property makes it even less acceptable for men anywhere to mock women.

I don't buy the "it's ok because it's gay guys" argument either. Femaleness is not an abstract concept to be used by men to score points against each other, whether we're talking about the side saying "you're gay and therefore less of a man" or the side saying "fuck you I'll be a caricature of a woman then". In both sides of the argument, it's woman as a concept that's being bandied around, when in fact women are people with agency, motivation and expression of their own.

Jaxhog · 21/12/2018 14:42

I hope not. The idea that we could all become 'gender neutral' is rather depressing. I'd really like to see a world where you can black or white your face, dress as the opposite gender etc. because everyone is equal in society and we now celebrate our historic differences.

Janedoe5000 · 21/12/2018 14:43

No.

Evidence suggests that millenials - the worst of the professional offence-takers -(and those like them of any age) are something of an anomoly in that the generation behind them are proving to be fans of edgy humour and offending each other.

So the situation's likely to improve and laughing at snowflakes will become even more widespread.

MardyArabella · 21/12/2018 16:58

jane teenagers have always loved offensive humour. My snowflake millennium generation definitely did. Much of the generation after me are now adults and have joined us pathetic professional offence takers. Sorry!

masterandmargarita · 21/12/2018 19:57

Does that mean no more Mrs doubtfire?

donquixotedelamancha · 21/12/2018 20:20

the generation behind them are proving to be fans of edgy humour and offending each other

The kids I teach now are utterly scathing about the fashion for 'identifying' as things and leaping to offence, in a way that wasn't the case even a couple of years ago. I do think we are reaching the high tide of the most recent wave of wokeness.

The sad thing it's unlikely to be replaced with a moderate, sensible approach to the balance of speech and offence; but I think on average things get better.

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