To wonder how much longer school will do nativity plays?

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As there is no biblical scripture to show Jesus was born at the time of the winter solstice. Surely it’s just teaching creationism or that the world is flat?

So the threat of a terror sttack linked to Islamic fundamentalism not only in the UK but across Europe hasn't ever concerned you?

For most of my life the terrorists have been Xian. Whether they be Irish, British, Catalan, Basque.

Then there is the fact I'm much more likely to be killed by a male who is at least culturally Christian.

I’m fed up of constant attacks on Christianity by oh so right on pseudo liberals. Most of the time these people are sat there championing their own cult that of looking oh so down with the kids, misplaced political correctness etc all to make themselves look good. All the time you can’t help but laugh at what they think is the oh so original statements, Christmas hijacked a pagan festival, sky fairies, blahblah blah, it’s like sixth form common room thinking is being spouted out the mouths of fully grown adults.

Would you feel better op if The same nativity were run at a different time of year?

....'constant attacks on Christianity' is over egging the pudding a bit. Unless eye rolling is an attack now?

Constant attacks on Christianity? Blimey- where?

Or do you mean objections to Christian privilege? Not quite the same thing........

As Christianity is the now recognised as the most persucuted religious group globally, I think we can forgive some wary Christians.

I'm not saying that Christians are violently persucuted in England. I am very lucky to live here and I often pray for Christians living in secret in many parts of the world.

However, there have been many times that I have been hesitatant to mention my religious beliefs because of previously witnessing and experiencing mocking as well as patronising behaviour and patronising language (you believe in sky fairies?!). I pick up many offensive references to God in conversation that I won't confront because I get told that I shouldn't judge. Unfortunately, nowadays, having religious beliefs equates you with something antiquated and not as 'smart' as non believers. It is a form of persucution, just not the violent type that we hear about.

As many have been saying that England is no longer a Christian country, maybe the right to mock and patronise religious people is a part of athetist privilege?

Religion and culture are inextricably linked. The UK has been a Christian country for hundreds/over a thousand years and although it may not be the dominant influence anymore (slowly diminishing over the past 50 or so years), so much of society and our laws are based on Christian/old testament doctrine and morality. It's actually the fabric that binds us and gives us the culture we have (along with other long term indigenous influences such as Paganism, hence why many people enjoy Halloween - which I am sure the OP doesn't partake in since witches, ghosts and goblins don't exist! ).

Unfortunately, nowadays, having religious beliefs equates you with something antiquated and not as 'smart' as non believers

But that's understandable, surely? I must admit that although I am kind when people talk about their religious beliefs, there's a part inside me that thinks, "ah, bless". To believe in something unproven and unseen, in this day and age, with all its technological advancements, space travel, medical discoveries and amazingly talented scientists is either naive or arrogant. Or both.

However, there have been many times that I have been hesitatant to mention my religious beliefs because of previously witnessing and experiencing mocking as well as patronising behaviour and patronising language (you believe in sky fairies?!).

And yet, standing up to persecution is part of being Christian ? If thine enemy strikes thy face then offer him the other cheek, so something like that ?

@WhyDontYouComeOnOver

Surely to think that we already know everything about our exisitance (due to our technological advancements, space travel, medical discoveries and amazingly talented scientists) is fairly arrogant and naive?

Nativities aren't going to die out any time soon. Why shouldn't we remember celebrate our Christian heritage - even if we are not practising Christians? Christianity was responsible for so much charity and philanthropy in our past (and still is - check out who's running the food banks) and drove big changes such as the abolition of slavery in the UK and its dominions.

@DGRossetti
Does that make persucution acceptable though?

I never said I was a perfect Christian who will willingly stand up and expose myself to insults. I absolutely admire people who do and when I do feel aggreived by insults (whatever that be), I offer it to God.

Does that make persucution acceptable though?

Of course not. No one should be persecuted for their beliefs. Or their lack of beliefs either.

Mocking? Mocking? This is your persecution in a country where you find yourself over represented in politics, education and the state generally? Cry me a river.

For most of my life the terrorists have been Xian. Whether they be Irish, British, Catalan, Basque.

Then there is the fact I'm much more likely to be killed by a male who is at least culturally Christian

Terrorist attacks in Britain by basques, British, Catalan? Link please, and the fact that you are more likely to be killed by a British male is irrelevant and a silly remark. If that was the case why have we got huge security at all the Christmas markets etc. Stop being naive and in denial.

Mocking? Mocking? This is your persecution in a country where you find yourself over represented in politics, education and the state generally? Cry me a river.

How are they over-represented? I don't think there are any more overtly practising Christians in positions of power than non-religious and besides, the UK has a culture rooted in Christianity, so not surprising that it is going to be the dominant influence, if any.

Be thankful that mocking Christianity isn't going to get you beheaded or locked up for life with no trial, Christians being pretty tolerant and forgiving these days. Very easy to be edgy about Christianity when the worst you will get is an eye-roll or tut.

More people in this country identify as non religious and Christian...be thankful you don't have so much as a mean placard to contend with.

Non religious than Christian

Many - if not most - Muslim kids in my area attend the local Catholic secondary school. It has a very particular ethos and is clearly held in high regard because of that.

Well, bishops in the House of Lords and acts of worship of a broadly Christian nature being compulsory in schools for a start.

Then there is the fact I'm much more likely to be killed by a male who is at least culturally Christian

You are also more likely to be treated by a male, culturally Christian doctor/paramedic too as well as many of the inventions which keep you alive and make your life easier having been invented by culturally Christian, male, individuals.

Deadbudgie

I’m fed up of constant attacks on Christianity by oh so right on pseudo liberals. Most of the time these people are sat there championing their own cult that of looking oh so down with the kids, misplaced political correctness etc all to make themselves look good. All the time you can’t help but laugh at what they think is the oh so original statements, Christmas hijacked a pagan festival, sky fairies, blahblah blah, it’s like sixth form common room thinking is being spouted out the mouths of fully grown adults

In a nutshell. Pretty much all that needs to be said.

I'm not particularly religious. In fact I'm about as unreligious as they come.
Have I got beef against it being incorporated into school activities at this time of year?
Nah. I thoroughly enjoyed all the attached turkey and trimmings when I was a kid.

It's all entertainment. Embrace it.

You are also more likely to be treated by a male, culturally Christian doctor/paramedic too as well as many of the inventions which keep you alive and make your life easier having been invented by culturally Christian, male, individuals.

Well said.

mothertruck3r

Then there is the fact I'm much more likely to be killed by a male who is at least culturally Christian

You are also more likely to be treated by a male, culturally Christian doctor/paramedic too as well as many of the inventions which keep you alive and make your life easier having been invented by culturally Christian, male, individuals.

Exactly. Well said.

To allow non elected church members positions in parliament

The 26 seats for the Lords Spiritual are approximately 3.3% of the total membership of the House of Lords -

All members of the house of lords are unelected and that is an issue in itself. However, only 3.3% are Lords Spiritual which under represents the Christian population in the UK

Then there is the fact I'm much more likely to be killed by a male who is at least culturally Christian

Culturally Christian but not religiously Christian