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AIBU? Have I ruined christmas for my daughter?

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Battler1126 · 09/12/2018 09:11

So.. Here's the short(ish) version. Recently I was getting ready to go out and do some christmas shopping when I recieved a phone call off my mum who was in such a state. Me and my hubby needed to get over to their house asap. I honestly thought someone was dying. We grab all of the stuff we need for the baby and left. When we get there my mum, dad (struggling to call him that now) brother (looking dreadful) and his girlfriend were sat in the front room. So we ask whats going on., obviously worried. My (26 year old) brothers been sacked from his job. He hasn't been turning in on time if at all.. He didn't pay the callout money for that week in at the office, hes in thousands of ££ worth of debt and has spent thousands of ££ savings. He owes money to every tom dick or Harry. Anyway, to cut a VERY long story short, although it's terrible, I was relieved thats all it was. Things can be sorted. He can get help with his gambling addiction and we can pay money back and move on. They then proceed to tell me things have been happening for almost a year and they've been keeping it from me. It's only now hes lost his job that theyre bothering to tell me. I'm still confused as to why I needed to know. I sat with the family and talked through things. Tried to sort stuff out (apparently this is why I had to know, I'm a good mediator and have my head screwed on. That's now changed according to them) When my parents left for work and his girlfriend left me, my hubby (who knows all about addiction) and my brother sat down and talked (we have been very close our whole lives. I practically brought him up) he said things he wouldnt say infront of them. We looked for help with gambling addictions. Found some good stuff to read online. I called the people that he owed money to. Set up payment plans to pay his debt off so when he got himself right he could just pay us back. My dad paid back the money to work for him (they work at the same company) he also paid back the stuff he owed to friends and family. So to help out I sorted the rest. THINKING I was doing what was right. I didn't want them to have to pull out all the money themselves this close to christmas. It halved the burden and stress and could be sorted at a later date. They were wanting to take his phone off him and lock him in a room. I understood they were shocked worried and angry but that wouldnt work. So I reasoned with them. Made it so he could keep his phone. They took any bank cards off him and I made him delete anything he could gamble on off his phone. We agreed that at any time they can ask to see the apps on there to make sure he hasn't got anything on. I also pointed out that in order to build their trust again they would have to let him prove himself. It was a fight but I got there in the end. He had his phone.
Cut to 5 days ago.. Me and my hubby were talking, we realised he obviously hadnt been paying his phone bill and other bits either so I called him (to which he answered the phone straight away, grateful Im the reason he has it). Told him to pick my oldest up from school and come to the house. He came and we asked about the phone bill etc.. He said he hasn't paid them. SOO.. I got him to call EE and tell them the bent truth as to why he hasn't been paying, authorise me to talk about his account and then put me on the phone. I paid his £147.35 bill and arranged to call back on the 12th to pay the next £59.70 so he could use his phone and the bills stopped mounting up. I also called other placed and debt collection agencies and paid some of them off. In total I paid £317. 63. My hubby left for work quickly followed by my brother who went home. So happy some things had been sorted out I rang hubby and talked. We are fully aware this is enabling him and not really teaching him anything but my "parents" wanted it this way. I was just pleased we could help. About an hour after my brother got home I got a txt off HIS dad asking who he owed money to and how much. My brother refused to talk about it with the parents. I rang his dad back and just said dont worry about stuff. We have sorted it. All we wanted him to pay was the biggest one. I told him who it was to and said I would txt the info over to him. He then turns on me like a cut snake. Shouting at me. I'm then being told all of this is my fault. Things being thrown back in my face about things that happened years ago. Being reminded of every £5 I've asked to lend in the past. Dragging up everything he thinks ive done wrong. I'm being shouted at not talked to. Hes telling my that my brother isnt my responsibility (wasn't that when he was living with me when he was younger or I had to stay in as a child to babysit sometimes 3 times a week) he was "TELLING ME" that Im wrong and know nothing about what's happened and I shouldnt have involved myself. Correct me if I'm wrong but I knew nothing about it til they told me. Surely thats them involving me?
Anyway, upset at how the phone call went with him I called my mum. Straight away she was defensive and basically said the same as her husband. She went at me like a mad woman and wouldnt reason with me. Couldnt or wouldnt answer why I was getting the blame and all of the crap to go with it. Told me she refused to talk to me any more about it. Again I was told it was my fault and I brought it on to myself. I don't understand where I went wrong? Now my brother isnt talking to me. I cant understand that either.
So.. We have an xmas tradition that every xmas eve we go out and do something as a family. Them 3 sometimes 4 if brothers girlfriend comes and us (with the baby this year. I was excited about her 1st christmas) we were having christmas day at our house this year.. another 1st I was excited about. My 10 year old is so excited and happy about it but has no Idea that Ive told them not to come. I've been treated like this off them my whole life and ive had enough and im so hurt by whats happened I don't want to see them BUT it's not going to be the same. Especially for my daughter. Im heartbroken for her. I can't sleep. I feel ill and its ruined christmas for me and I know it will for my daughter. I just tried to do whats right. Now they're playing happy families. Going out for drinks and acting like nothings happened and im the one left feeling like this with everyone turning on me. Should I just let it slide for my daughter's sake and let them come here for Xmas?

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Haffdonga · 09/12/2018 19:00

So Battler what do you want to happen going forward?

Battler1126 · 09/12/2018 19:32

@Haffdonga Ive talked to my daughter today and shes not daft (are any of them at 10 years old?) I told her in a way thats suitable for a young girl. She understands. Shes picking what we do on Xmas eve and she thinks it's better to have christmas on our own rather than there being an atmosphere and people feeling uncomfortable. Shes actually opened up a and has actually seen whats been going on a little bit. Shes noticed me being treated differently over the past few years. It's maybe a good thing we had to talk. I'm just happy shes not really upset about it all and shes happy she gets to choose the new tradition for her sisters first christmas. :)

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ShalomJackie · 09/12/2018 19:50

Great update.

Have a fab Christmas! Xmas Smile

Rarfy · 09/12/2018 20:00

Be very careful with the phone. I borrowed my gambling db a phone. Little did i know he could gamble away by adding his gambles to the phone bill until i got my £200 and something bill.

I would never bail him out either but would help organise payment plans for him.

KurriKurri · 09/12/2018 22:56

Good for her - she sounds like a very switched on and mature little girl Smile Have a great Christmas.

kathyjean · 09/12/2018 23:12

Murder. Best of luck, Kathyjean Wine

everydaymum · 10/12/2018 06:25

Good on you Battler! Kids are intuitive and your DD sounds switched on. It will be good for her to have seen you stand up for yourself. It's hard with families, and many people tolerate mistreatment and bad behaviour simply because 'they're family', but you've shown DD that it shouldn't be that way.

ChristmassyContessaConSparkles · 10/12/2018 06:39

That sounds like a rather dramatic solution Kathyjean Grin

footballmum · 10/12/2018 06:53

That’s a good update OP. Focus on enjoying Christmas with your own family unit.

If I were you I’d make it clear to your parents that you’ll be expecting an apology for the way in which they’ve spoken to you before they are welcome in your house again, even if that means they don’t see their grandchildren over Christmas. It’s about time they started respecting you as an adult and parent in your own right.

Oh and don’t worry about “depriving” your DD of her grandparents at Christmas. Better to not have them there than tolerate an awkward uncomfortable atmosphere.

GhostSauce · 10/12/2018 06:57

He's a grown man. Why on earth did you pay off his debts?

The lesson he's learned is that when he fucks up someone will fix it for him.

He needs to learn the consequences of getting into debt like an adult.

Balaboosteh · 10/12/2018 07:45

The Prince must remain blameless so daughter is turned on. The more capable and admirable she is the harder the hammer comes down. Repress the women at all costs, keep the halos in place on the heads angel princes. It’s misogyny pure and simple. Oldest story in the book. Didn’t you get the memo? Women aren’t supposed to be strong and capable, you’ve crossed every line...
Sorry you’re going through this OP - stop trying to sort the situation and distance yourself.

lborgia · 10/12/2018 08:22

What a fantastic update. Come back and read this if you wobble. This is absolute perfect timing. If this had happened in a normal month I bet you would've worked to get it back on track. The christmas element makes their behaviour even more starkly awful and batshit. I'm sure if your started a separate thread asking for 9 yr old girl traditions for future Christmases, you'd get a sack full Xmas Grin

Battler1126 · 10/12/2018 10:52

Thanks everyone, shes a great kid. I'm so proud of her. I really appreciate all of your input x

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ohtheholidays · 10/12/2018 11:10

Bless you OP your obviously an amazing Mum and doing an amazing job.

I'm so glad your feeling better now and that your DD is okay.I hope you have an amazing Christmas Xmas Smile

Battler1126 · 12/12/2018 17:16

@ohtheholidays thanks very much. Have a great Christmas and New year xx

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Battler1126 · 11/01/2019 19:38

So christmas ended up being ruined anyway.. my FIL passed away. Honestly, I really hope this year is better than last.
Hope everyone had a great Xmas and new year x

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