To think schools will close, rubbish will rot and bodies won't be buried

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‏Local authorities making emergency plans for March 29th onwards 2019 for Crash Out Brexit (Leaving without a deal)

@faisalislam
NEW: Extraordinary Kent County Council No Deal Brexit document detailing “Operation Fennel” next month to hold 10,000 HGVs “on a routine basis”

-administration GCSEs/SATS

• waste services “delayed and disrupted”
• “difficulties with transport of the deceased”

Looks like there's a serious possibility of 1000s of our kids having wasted years of education as GCSE and A level exams could be cancelled.

Local government do realise we did pretty well before the EU existed don’t they?
Are you having a laugh? The o2 internet network went down for a day & it was like the end of the world for half the people I spoke to. We don’t live in the 70’s anymore, people nowadays don’t have a clue about make do & mend & carrying on regardless!

What if I go to our local market and there is no Jamon Serrano and Manchego cheese?

There won’t be any, but that will be the least of your worries.

Don’t worry about the ports around Dover, for we will all be able to look to the sky and see Spitfire’s dropping emergency grocery packs to our neighbourhoods. Make Great Britain great again.

See, this is what I don’t get about remainers. So you’re basically saying that the EU is going to create what is essentially a blockade, stopping essentials like food and medicine entering the country (and no, rules is rules, hands are tired isn’t an excuse for this) yet you expect us to believe that an organisation who would do that are a good think that we should want to be part of?

It makes no sense. Historical equivalents would be the communist blockade of West Berlin, or the response of the British Empire to the Irish famine (we tried the rules is rules our hands are tied with that one and it didn’t wash. Remainers suggest that the EU is prepared to carry through actions that a reminiscent of the most evil regimes in history, that have have amounted to crimes against humanity.

And that is supposed to make us want to be part of the EU? It makes no sense.

This is like a snow day.

When will I know if I don’t have to go into school?

So.
No one has heard from LAs that goods and services will be delivered after a 'Crash out'/ no deal brexit.
Thanks.
Have a good weekend folks.

So you’re basically saying that the EU is going to create what is essentially a blockade

It isn’t the EU creating the blockade - it’s the U.K.! The EU will send humanitarian aide to a country that has self-sabotaged.

For exams you’d surely just send the teachers to their nearest school and try and make sure enough staff to student ratio

Lol.

Well this is about as far fetched as it gets. Britain managed to keep these services running while it was at war. If such a scenario ever comes into being it will be fuck all to do with brexit and everything to do with shit governance.

"Britain managed to keep these services running while it was at war."

No of course it didn't. Quite apart from the fact that services were very much reduced versus today at that time in history, there were severe shortages of food, clothing and medicines during the war, and thereafter.

Racecardriver my Grandad was a policeman, in London, in WW2. Trust me, it was an utterly shitty time. Please stop saying such crap for gods sakes.

Not sure if anyone’s posted this already

@Racecardriver - my dad served in the war. My grandparents lived through it at home. You are talking out of your arse.

Londongirl79 The UK Major Ports Group doesn't include the Port of Dover, which is the largest RORO port in the UK. Unsurprisingly 98% of RORO traffic is with the EU and Dover handles 35% of the UK's RORO freight.

The British Ports Association, which does represent Dover, says:

For parts of the ports industry, namely Roll-on Roll-off port operations, which handle the majority of the UK’s trade with the EU, a ‘no-deal’ could be a serious challenge and lead to significant disruption at the border.

And there would also be the added complication of checks at the Channel Tunnel as well.

If the UK Major Ports Group doesn't include Dover it is not speaking for our most important port.

How would a hard or no deal Brexit stop GCSE happening? They're ready and will be sent out at the appropriate time by Royal Mail, or special courier, as normal. They don't come via Europe!

@nancy75
Yes, we survived. I was born mid 70s so more an 80s child. Things weren’t perfect, but we survived pretty well before the EEC & EU. O2 went down for a bit - if people can’t “survive” them we should stop being a bunch of pussies. We will survive, no matter what.

Kent resident here,
Operation Stack is a nightmare and seriously impacts travel .Dover tap is not quite so bad.Its not a question of a deliberate blockade afaik,but a lot of freight traffic goes through Kent,via the tunnel and the ferries.if how fast it can move through is impaired,then it will back up onto the motorways,and if it's bad enough lorries have to park up - so wherever they can,and on the M20, parts of which are closed to allow this.This completely jams up all the surrounding roads,towns and villages.We had it multiple times over the summer a few years ago I think because there were ferry strikes,but I've suppressed the memory.....It impacted travel to work,school,shops lost business is they were inaccessible.And the lorries keep coolers running,it's noisy,it's polluting,drivers need food,drink,toilet facilities.
If the Brexit deal involves freight taking longer to clear customs that'll happen again.There are plans now to use the M26 as a lorry park,gates are being installed to allow sections to be closed off.( though our local MP was told this would not happen - right up to the point of the motorway being closed overnight for it to be done....)
Hope it won't happen but KCC would be negligent not to prepare for the possibility.

We will survive

That ranks alongside “there will be adequate food” and “it’s not as bad as the Black Death” which have also been used in relation to Brexit.

O2 went down for awhile and it was like the end of the world for some people you spoke to nancy really ?? what sad little lives some people must lead it they can't cope with social media for a few hours. oh, sorry, plenty of people do not seem to be able to breathe without having an app telling them how to.

@bellinisurge obviously not in areas that saw action but most countries have maintained these kinds of services while at war. Even in Britain though with the evacuation of children and the loss of male teachers schools did remain open. I’m not sure where your family was but many schools stayed open. Temporary schools were also run in churches and the like as necessary. Outside of Britain other countries made adjustments to their education systems such as running schools at night so that the daylight hours could be reserved for war work (this was what they did where my family was). Now if a country that is being bombed can manage to keep schools open Brexit really isn’t an excuse is it?

O2 went down for awhile and it was like the end of the world for some people you spoke to nancy really ?? what sad little lives some people must lead it they can't cope with social media for a few hours. oh, sorry, plenty of people do not seem to be able to breathe without having an app telling them how to

Well I work completely online so I’m sure you can appreciate why it would be incredibly difficult if my network went down.

People are so unable to see any bigger picture aren’t they?!

Oh its just silly comparing the britain of 2018 with the Britain of 1944

In any way shape or form

People are so unable to see any bigger picture aren’t they

Yes they are

They think...well i can manage without a computer for a few hours, why cant the rest of the country

paintinmyhairAgain lack of social media wasn’t really the problem, lack of Apple Pay, bus apps, parking apps, banking apps - people were totally stranded ( I’m old enough to know how to live without Apple Pay but apparently some people leave the house with nothing but their phone!)
My point was things are different now,if a few hours without WiFi can cause such a hooha imagine what it will be like if the whole of Ke t is gridlocked! in the 70s we as a whole were more able to do things for ourself, we didnt have the choice of good we have now, the choice of foods, we had much more of a grit your teeth & get on with it attitude. Just because we were ok then doesn’t mean people will be ok now

I remember 1970s food only too well - when a Vesta curry was truly exotic.