To think he should NEVER be released - HORRIFIC STORY WARNING ***warning reiterated by MNHQ - disturbing content***

[ShockedandOutraged]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6457161/Hes-bad-Ian-Brady.html#article-6457161

After committing a crime like this, it can never be guaranteed that this man is not a risk to society. What parameters do the Parole Board use to determine this? He has not been around to lose his temper/in a position to kill children while inside.

The reports details a network of 'friends' that this fiend has as support when he's out. Who on earth could be friends with something like this?

How can he even want to be released? If he had any remorse he'd have killed himself before now.

The poor parents of these children. Is there anyway they can fight against this?

It might help people to look at this in a different way. The parole board are not there to dish out punishment. That comes from the Courts.

If the parole board decides that someone needs to stay in prison they need to give valid reasons. They need to set goals which are achievable for the prisoner. They do not have the autonomy to just say "no this crime was too despicable, we can't let you out". They have rules and guidelines, like every other part of the criminal justice system.

When he was refused parole in 2016 he would have been told why. Whatever the reason for that refusal was, he has obviously addressed it. He has not been allowed out because the parole board wants to let him out. It's because they have no more reasons left to keep him in.

Just throwing in how deeply saddened I am to hear this story today. Can't say more than that. I hope the mother has all the support she needs.

I saw their father dead? I keep seeing people mentioning their mother but not their father.

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Storm He has been eligible for parole for 25 years and it’s been denied several times.

Agree the parole board are there to assess risk, not the length of his sentence. There is no such thing as zero risk.

Ian Huntley, Myra Hindley etc were sentenced to whole life sentences, not sure why it has not been applied to this person.

I can't read all 16 pages. I am familiar with the story and think he should be interred for his whole life

Is there an online petition?

Storm4star on the whole, I honestly don't think it's that people don't realise how the system works, more that they don't agree with it

As with the push for more transparency with the Parole Board, surely the sensible solution is to change things if necessary, rather than just feel "that's how it is" ... and preferably to press for this appalling decision to be overturned while they're at it

After all, I've no doubt the board originally said they had no reason to refuse Warboys release either - and that didn't last long

The head of the parole board should volunteer to allow this thing to move in with his family whilst he gets back on his feet. They should also be willing to allow him to babysit. But let’s not kid ourselves they don’t know that this thing will be moved into a halfway house in a poor area near unsuspecting people.

A peado was released and housed near my parents. Nobody knew his history until he raped a 9 year old girl with special needs who had seen him around long enough to trust him when he invited her into his home.

Fucking unbelievable.

You cannot be rehabilitated from murdering three kids and putting their bodies on spikes.

I don't disagree with you at all and I think that changes will come because people are fed up with things as they currently are. I myself was a victim of a serious crime which didn't proceed to court because the police messed up the investigation so, while I understand the workings of the "system", I have no faith in it. I worked for two years with victims, and the families of murder victims, and my heart broke for them every day. This man shouldn't ever be released. What he did was just beyond any human comprehension and my heart goes out to the poor mother. I hope that things do change, that victims and their families get real justice. Maybe now that there is so much online and so much public outcry over cases like this, the justice system will have to change.

I'm outraged. These people who are releasing him are not fit for their jobs!!! Is there a petition? If not then how do you start one? Clearly the paper printed this because they felt the public had a right to know that this animal was being released!

@sackrifice and lots of others...

Why do I think it's OK for him to be released?

For so many reasons.

1. He has been incarcerated for decades. By today's standards, that is two or three times longer than today's sentences.

1. All the reports indicate that he has made very positive progress - as one would hope and expect, and that he is ready for life on the outside. These have been prepared by people involved with his life, not random and highly emotional posters on social media.

1. It has been 45 years. Have you changed during the past 45 years?

1. Assertions such as 'he knew what he was doing!!' are laughably ignorant. The facts tell us that he was 17 and riddled with very serious mental health issues, that he had been drinking, and that he had been left in sole charge of three very small children. This is a recipe for disaster.

Today we are no longer ignorant of these matters and can apply our knowledge of human behaviour and dysfunction to assist with our decisions.

Today no one in their right mind would leave a troubled and alcohol-saturated teenage boy to mind three small children for an unspecified period of time. We would recognise it to be unsafe, unwise - even downright dangerous.

We understand that small children need their caregivers to be sober, mature and patient. We understand that looking after other people's young children is not easy or without challenges.

We also understand that the teenage brain is still developing, and that even sensible teenagers can do monumentally foolish things at times.
We understand impulsiveness and how to teach management of urges.

In short, we have the ability to make informed decisions about keeping ourselves and others safe. We have also learned that young people who have not been well cared for are unlikely to be able to care well for others, and that damaged children grow into damaged adults.

We no longer need to rely on emotion and ignorance to inform our judgements, we can move forward as a society.

The facts tell us that he was 17 and

21 I thought? He’d already been kicked out of the navy.

We also understand that the teenage brain is still developing, and that even sensible teenagers can do monumentally foolish things at times.

You’re not actually saying what he did was “monumentally foolish” are you?

Picklepost he was not 17, no MH issues have been reported AFAIK, he did not have a 'bad' upbringing from all accounts either.

In trying to explain your nonsense, you could at least get your facts right?

I imagine people do change over 45 years but the fact he has proven himself capable of this type of act by doing it once, surely means he is capable of doing it again?

He was not 17. He was 23. He's 67 now.

It has been 45 years. Have you changed during the past 45 years?

Yep, didn't kill 3 young children by different methods, then impale them on spikes, then not tell the police where they were so they'd come upon them unawares.

Let's be factual here. He was not 17.

He murdered the baby by blunt force trauma to the skull. He then strangled the 4-year-old boy with wire and slit the 2-year-old's throat. He then removed the bodies and impaled them on spikes. Oh, he also mutilated the corpses with a pickaxe.

But it was long ago. And he was drunk and stressed.

It's all the father's fault for leaving them with him to pick up his wife from her barmaid job .

Sorry, my bad, he was 22 at the time of the murders, 5 years off 17.

Can you imagine that he was taken in by the parents after his parents had kicked him out (rightfully it seemed). They gave him a roof, they considered him a friend who the children adored reportedly.

That's how he paid them back.

The horror and betrayal!

Unimaginable.

It's said that there was no suggestion of diminished responsibility at the trial

I realise things were done rather differently 45 years ago, but surely if McGreavy was "riddled with very serious mental health issues" this might have been offered as a defence?

Fantastic victim blaming there pickle

it has been 45 years well yes, 45 years in which he's had no access to children or alcohol....

Also, we have all been impulsive teenagers. Most of us managed not to kill children.

Mental health issues do not mean you should be excused from killing children either.

Picklepost - are you part of a network of friends per chance?