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To think he should NEVER be released - HORRIFIC STORY WARNING ***warning reiterated by MNHQ - disturbing content***

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ShockedandOutraged · 04/12/2018 09:44

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6457161/Hes-bad-Ian-Brady.html#article-6457161

After committing a crime like this, it can never be guaranteed that this man is not a risk to society. What parameters do the Parole Board use to determine this? He has not been around to lose his temper/in a position to kill children while inside.

The reports details a network of 'friends' that this fiend has as support when he's out. Who on earth could be friends with something like this?

How can he even want to be released? If he had any remorse he'd have killed himself before now.

The poor parents of these children. Is there anyway they can fight against this?

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nocoolnamesleft · 04/12/2018 14:39

There is no way that this was a spur of the moment lashing out under stress event. If he had killed the baby, then dialled 999, or killed the baby then fled the scene, or even killed the baby then put them in their cot and pretended they were fine when he last saw them...yes, those could well have been a brief loss of control. Sickening, horrendous, despicable, but on some level understandable as a total loss of control. He killed all 3 children. One after another. Using different means. And then he displayed them on spikes. That isn't a loss of control under stress and then a panicky cover up. That is deliberate, sustained, sadistic viciousness. The only thing that having learned better control would mean would be that he'd be better at not getting caught.

Graphista · 04/12/2018 14:39

"Some "crimes" eg not having a tv license, shouldn't even carry a prison sentence." Yep also non payment of fines, council tax, crimes related to being a prostitute, non violent petty thefts - all don't warrant a prison sentence in my opinion.

Also while I am vehemently anti drugs I don't think jailing addicts is working either. Better they were in proper rehab facilities. But no swapping one addiction for another eg methadone.

"My guess is that the supportive friends are the Church." If so we all know how good they are at protecting perverts!

FamilyOfAliens · 04/12/2018 14:40

if you say you "know why you did it" that's ok then is it?

Where did I say that?

LuvSmallDogs · 04/12/2018 14:41

Absolutely, anothermothers, imagine something so simple as a child knocking on his door to ask for their ball back by themselves!😱

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ShockedandOutraged · 04/12/2018 14:41

Re: the death penalty. It's a different world today than it was in the 1960's when someone would have had to physically put the noise round a neck, before DNA evidence etc.

Nowadays it could be done by computerised methods. Just pass the sentence and get a group of people willing to strap them to a gurney. No one has to watch (I don't agree with that as they do in the US). They can just to be put to sleep. End of.

Family can then grieve and focus on remembering their loved ones not live in permanent pain with knowing that the one who murdered them is still having their needs being taken care of.

What is more callous?

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FamilyOfAliens · 04/12/2018 14:42

yes I have changed my mind about the death penalty.

At least you’re honest about that. Other postershave claimed that thinking execution is fitting for this person is compatible with being against the death penalty.

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ShockedandOutraged · 04/12/2018 14:45

Noose not noise obviously.

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flamingofridays · 04/12/2018 14:57

aliens

well you either think its ok for him to be released, or you don't.

FamilyOfAliens · 04/12/2018 14:59

Nowadays it could be done by computerised methods. Just pass the sentence and get a group of people willing to strap them to a gurney. No one has to watch (I don't agree with that as they do in the US). They can just to be put to sleep. End of.

You cannot find a vein for a lethal injection by computer. For former drug users it can take hours to find a vein. You have to apply heart monitors and insert a canula. You have to ensure legal processes are followed by having witnesses. You then have to have a doctor check the person’s heart to ensure they are dead.

FamilyOfAliens · 04/12/2018 15:00

well you either think its ok for him to be released, or you don't.

I haven’t shared my view on that on this thread and it is no-one’s business other way.

FamilyOfAliens · 04/12/2018 15:00

either way

flamingofridays · 04/12/2018 15:01

so why are you even here?

you don't agree with the death penalty - ok, well he's not been sentenced to that and wont be, so what point exactly are you trying to make?

RoboticMary · 04/12/2018 15:01

I wouldn’t bother with all that. There are easier ways. I couldn’t care less if he suffers. It would be nothing compared to what he did to those babies.

FamilyOfAliens · 04/12/2018 15:02

What business is it if yours why I’m here? Who made you the thread police?

flamingofridays · 04/12/2018 15:05

i'm not the thread police, I just don't understand your point?

you don't want to give your opinion on the specific case this thread is about...

FamilyOfAliens · 04/12/2018 15:07

you don't want to give your opinion on the specific case this thread is about...

There’s no obligation for anyone to give their opinion on anything on this forum.

flamingofridays · 04/12/2018 15:08

I never said there was but generally if you want to post on a thread its about something relevant to that thread no?

you disagree with the death penalty and that's what you've come to post about, but he wont get sentenced to death anyway!

FamilyOfAliens · 04/12/2018 15:09

This thread isn’t about me or my opinions.

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 04/12/2018 15:10

FWIW I don't and never will agree with the death penalty.

I would be happy to see this man remain in prison for the rest of his days though.

But it's not down to me...just the parole board.

flamingofridays · 04/12/2018 15:12

no but it is about whether a prisoner should be released or not, and apparently your opinion on that is nobody elses business.

FamilyOfAliens · 04/12/2018 15:16

Got it in one, flamigo.

Perhaps now just stop obsessing with what I’m posting as it’s getting irritating?

RamblingRita · 04/12/2018 15:17

Who said it had to be by lethal injection Family? A shot through the heart would be more effective and painless.

We train our soldiers to do this to perceived enemies of the state but we balk at the thought of doing it to vicious murderers of young children?

FamilyOfAliens · 04/12/2018 15:21

Who said it had to be by lethal injection Family? A shot through the heart would be more effective and painless.

Yes, there are lots of methods but the poster I was actually replying to suggested it could all be done by computer. Not sure how that would work with a firing squad.

Drogosnextwife · 04/12/2018 15:23

There is no way that this was a spur of the moment lashing out under stress event. If he had killed the baby, then dialled 999, or killed the baby then fled the scene, or even killed the baby then put them in their cot and pretended they were fine when he last saw them...yes, those could well have been a brief loss of control. Sickening, horrendous, despicable, but on some level understandable as a total loss of control. He killed all 3 children. One after another. Using different means. And then he displayed them on spikes. That isn't a loss of control under stress and then a panicky cover up. That is deliberate, sustained, sadistic viciousness. The only thing that having learned better control would mean would be that he'd be better at not getting caught.

Exactly what I thought. How can they not see this!

flamingofridays · 04/12/2018 15:25

im not obsessing over anything alien

who made you thread police?? Biscuit