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Councils should start taxing dog owners

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NigelGresley · 03/12/2018 18:10

In order to afford more dog wardens and have more resources to deal with those people who don’t pick up after their dogs.

I live in what would be considered to be a nice area, however it seems that half the dog owners can’t be bothered to pick up after their dogs and the streets are an absolute mess. I’m absolutley sick of it.

Our council has to make even more cuts over the next year, which will be felt more severely than any others in the past as this is now going to seriously impact social care, SEN provision, social work etc.... councils could generate additional income to deal with the problem caused by irresponsible dog owners.

You’ll probably ask how is it fair for all dog owners to be penalised due to a “minority”. However you could apply this argument to many other areas that we all collectively pay for, but may not benefit from.

So it’s time to take action to deal with dirty dog owners once and for all!!

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FishCanFly · 04/12/2018 13:32

Bad idea. What punishment do you suggest for those who can't afford to pay? Execute the dogs?

Verv · 04/12/2018 13:39

What about cat owners?
The world is their litter box.

Cleaning up after unsupervised youths is also a financial burden on councils. Graffiti, vandalism, etc.
What curative plan do you have for that?

LuvSmallDogs · 04/12/2018 13:42

We already have that here, gonna be £50 per annum I believe. I want them to do the same to horses though, bikers skid on their filth and I believe there are bags mounted police attach to their arses. Won’t happen though, as they are rich bitch playtoys.

nornironrock · 04/12/2018 13:51

My front garden/yard had a great pile of shit left in by some lovely dog. Right next to our car. My son didn't see it in the dark, and it got all over his brand new (expensive) trainer, and then all over the mat in my car.

I then had to scrub them clean. Delightful.

I genuinely don't get the fascination with dogs (or any other animal in the home) and I would advocate compulsory sterilisation for them all. That way, all the families that already have them can continue to enjoy them, but they don't get replaced. Problem solved.

As for my issue above, it has taken every ounce of willpower not to put poison down over the whole area.

WendyWoofer · 04/12/2018 14:03

Nonironrock you were thinking about poisoning dogs and cats because some disgusting human didn't pick up after their dog?

Delightful!

WendyWoofer · 04/12/2018 14:10

*I always take a load of poo bags out with me but I'm not sure I'd be able to produce 3 for a dog warden if my dogs had been busy already.

I used 5 in a short walk the other day (I'm sure my 2 save it up!)*

8 poo bags is hardly "A load". Is there a reason you can't stuff a trouser pocket and coat pocket with them? Most people, I know, manage to carry about 20 at a time. They weigh nothing!

BTW the council provide poo bags in our area, Wales. We pick them up in batches of 100 from libraries and post office.

Rolls of poo bags are hardly expensive to buy, so theres never an excuse for not having poo bags.

nornironrock · 04/12/2018 14:14

WendyWoofer I would suggest that the disgusting human that can't control their animal shouldn't be keeping one.

I don't see any reason at all why I should be cleaning up shit on my property, inside (!) my own car, and off my son.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 04/12/2018 14:17

Nonironrock you were thinking about poisoning dogs and cats because some disgusting human didn't pick up after their dog?

Ah, I think the problem is that it was a VERY EXPENSIVE trainer. Obviously it's so much worse if the trainer is VERY EXPENSIVE. It definitely warrants poisoning, and therefore inflicting enormous pain and suffering on an innocent animal, if a person has a VERY EXPENSIVE trainer. Because having a VERY EXPENSIVE trainer makes you a VERY SPECIAL and IMPORTANT person.
Hmm

Verv · 04/12/2018 14:18

Nornironrock, having enough willpower to overcome the desire to inflict suffering and painful death on sentient creatures is admirable. Sending applause.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 04/12/2018 14:19

I don't see any reason at all why I should be cleaning up shit on my property, inside (!) my own car, and off my son.

Perhaps you would have been better off spending the money on gates to your property rather than on the expensive trainers you're as pleased as punch to have bought. Just a thought.

nornironrock · 04/12/2018 14:22

DontMake...etc It wasn't VERY expensive, just (as stated) expensive. And the first time they'd been worn. And they weren't mine. It's my son in this instance who is the important person. And way more important than the animal that shit on my property. You may wish to read the post again before launching into your tirade.

Verv Sending thanks.

WendyWoofer · 04/12/2018 14:25

*WendyWooferI would suggest that the disgusting human that can't control their animal shouldn't be keeping one.

I don't see any reason at all why I should be cleaning up shit on my property, inside (!) my own car, and off my son*

Well I'm sure the dog deserves to be poisoned because it's owner didn't pick up and your sons expensive trainer somehow landed in the huge pile of dog shit - that a human didn't pick up Confused

IggityZiggityZoom · 04/12/2018 14:26

I would be in favour of a dog license. It helps to deter some people who shouldn't really own animals. As far as I know you can't ring fence tax money so you couldn't use the money from the license fees for dog wardens . It would all just go in the pot.

nornironrock · 04/12/2018 14:26

Dontmake Do you know me? Why should I buy gates if I don't want them? Are you suggesting that those without gates should reasonable be expected to put up with shit all over their property?

I was pleased I'd been able to do a nice thing for my son. What is it to do with you?

DontMakeMeShushYou · 04/12/2018 14:30

nornironrock

Bless you! I read the post perfectly well. I added the hyperbole for effect and it was hardly a tirade, more a joke at your expense, I'm afraid. Your son might be more important to you than an animal but it wasn't your son you were worried about was it? It was his expensive trainers and your car mat that you value above an animal. So much so that you want to inflict pain and suffering on it. Perhaps you need to read your post again before trying to defend the indefensible.

LostontheWestway · 04/12/2018 14:33

Even thinking about poisoning and innocent animal is verging on psychopathic.

nornironrock · 04/12/2018 14:39

I don't want to, and didn't want to inflict pain on anyone, or anything. As stated, I did not put poison down. My mention of willpower was also hyperbole, or do you have exclusive licence on that?

Also, having to explain the "joke" kind of negates it. (Which makes us both crap, I can see)

I wasn't aware I'd have to go into so much detail to justify my concern, but yes, I was concerned about my son. Who was upset that he felt he had caused his new stuff to be shitty, and my car. My reassuring words calmed him down, but he also had some on his skin, and was upset by both this, and the bloody awful smell.

I hope this clarification is suitable for you. Please don't hesitate to ask if you require any further details.

Shepherdspieisminging · 04/12/2018 14:40

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purplegoat · 04/12/2018 14:43

So what about cats? Who always shit anywhere but their own garden?

And foxes? Geese? Pigeons? Where does it end?

It's very rare for dogs to shit in other people's gardens.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 04/12/2018 14:48

Also, having to explain the "joke" kind of negates it. (Which makes us both crap, I can see)

Yeah, nice try.

babybythesea · 04/12/2018 14:49

I get the issue of children standing in shit. I have kids as well as a dog and while we love going out to walk the dog as a family, there are some places where this is a nightmare because of the poo left by other people's beasts. Owning a dog does not make me unsympathetic to those who just want to walk in a shit-free environment.
I do wonder about the fines for people who aren't carrying enough bags. I usually have several in my pocket (of every single jacket, coat and pair of trousers I own....!!!!). But I sometimes use them all up picking up poo that someone else hasn't bothered with. If I've taken four or five bags out I will often come back with none because I've used one or two for my own dog and then the rest on random dog shit that has been left. If I got fined for then not having any bags I'm not sure I'd bother to do this. And where I often go to walk the dog, although it is widely acknowledged to be a shit fest, and there are signs proclaiming fines if you are caught not picking up, I have never ever seen anyone there enforcing it. Or heard of any fines for not collecting. Enforce what is already there in theory and take it from there, maybe?

KellyW88 · 04/12/2018 14:55

I’m a little disconcerted by those who think a logical retort is child tax - but then I always make sure I clean up wherever I go with mine (currently babies so they’re not really capable of littering).

Also - I’m a cat owner - and cats are waaaay worse because they basically poo where they please. So I ask my neighbours to let me know if they notice any mess in their Gardens and I’ll go clean it up for them. I seem to be the only one in our cul de sac that offers mind you and with the amount I clear up I know it’s not just my cats that are likely culprits. But I’m a cat owner and so I take responsibility - many dog owners are the same but sadly we seem to be the minority these days :(

Shepherdspieisminging · 04/12/2018 16:39

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Jaguar2017 · 04/12/2018 16:49

I have got an idea. Watch where you are walking.

Wordthe · 04/12/2018 16:49

as said the dog owner contingent contains increasing numbers of 'look at me arent I hard my dog could rip your throat out' dog owners with the malamutes etc

these people clearly see themselves as superior and bending over to scoop up excrement is too much of an insult to the Übermenschs

it better befits their status to not notice that the creature has shat, they will not deign to do pick up shit, no task could be more menial or lowly, no one wants to walk about carrying lumps of shit.

Owning a dog now means that you are expected to submit to this revolting and humiliating task and many just refuse, preferring to leave the shit and let it gradually get smeared all over the rest of us