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To believe a 2 minute hate for Jacob Rees Mogg is justified

118 replies

longwayoff · 29/11/2018 10:10

And why not? Trashing the reputation of Mark Carney. Moving his finance business to Ireland in order to keep his business in the EU. And still persisting in telling us suckers that we'll all better off outside the EU. Not financially better off, no, not for many years but we'll be free of the tyranny of t he euro state. Hurrah.

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Talkinpeece · 29/11/2018 21:00

Forall
Indeed,
but he has also said that he wants Brexit so that the UK can drop its environmental standards to those of India
to allow bosses to make more profit ......

Talkinpeece · 29/11/2018 21:02

goldiehawn
The EU is less than 1% of the UK budget
stopping payments to the EU would fund the NHS for less than a week.

ManicUnicorn · 29/11/2018 21:07

I struggle to believe that JRM is an actual real person and not an actor playing a part.

twofingerstoEverything · 29/11/2018 21:12

I actually think the lack of planning about Brexit will actually make the NHS recruitment problem a reality when it didn't have to be.

The NHS recruitment problem is a reality already. EU workers are already leaving the NHS in droves. We cannot train UK health staff quickly enough and have just withdrawn bursaries from student nurses, radiographers etc.

FantasticHarryPotter · 29/11/2018 21:20

Yabu.

It should be much longer.

MissEliza · 29/11/2018 21:24

I accept we can't train them quickly enough but we need to start putting plans in place. It was absolutely ridiculous to remove the bursaries for student nurses etc. I know several people who would never gone into health occupations without those bursaries. It's also crazily difficult to get a place in medical school compared to many other countries because of the scarcity of places and consequently, we just don't train enough doctors. We seem completely unwilling or unable to plan in this country.

Talkinpeece · 29/11/2018 21:29

MissEliza
The UK has been importing trained medical staff from the Empire since before the Commonwealth.
It has NEVER since the birth of the NHS trained enough staff.
It is cheaper for the taxpayer to import staff than to train them.
It will always be that way

but now the new doctors and nurses will be brown not white

SapphireSeptember · 29/11/2018 22:02

Only two minutes? He's a loathsome creature, and in my head is like the Bellatrix Lestrange of British politics. Brexit is going to be dreadful for everyone, and I'm including myself in that. I might use fancy words, but I left school with a handful of GCSEs and work in a supermarket. Those rights enshrined in EU law are quite useful for people like me, even though most of my colleagues voted Leave. I'm also rather concerned about the environment and animal rights.

LucheroTena · 29/11/2018 22:11

I’m first in the queue for rotten veg when JRM, BoJo and Farage are put in the stocks.

Blibbyblobby · 29/11/2018 22:11

surfer you may be happy to be poorer, but it f-ing sucks for you to vote for other people to be poorer to make you happy.

Childrenofthesun · 29/11/2018 22:25

Miss Eliza, we will get all the money you want for the NHS and all the other things this country desperately needs money 💰 spent on by NOT PAYING THE EU all those billions of £££££££££££££££s

Haven't heard this gem for a while! I thought the penny had finally dropped for most people that we pay for membership of the EU because of the billions of ££s our economy gains from being part of the single market, which = our membership fee many many times over. Every single economic forecast has shown that if we leave our current position, even for EEA membership, we will be billions of £s a year worse off. I can't believe some people think we've been paying a membership fee each year for the past 4 decades without getting anything out of it!

The economy has already been in a slump since the referendum and we haven't even left yet. One of the reasons it didn't tank worse than it did is all the measures Mark Carney and the BoE took in June 2016, pumping money into the system. I can't believe he extended his contract after the shit he's endured - I'd have been out of here without a backwards glance.

As for JRM, the he has the desperate whiff of a man who sees his evil dreams crumbling around him.

AtlasShrugged · 29/11/2018 22:26

I like JRM - he's a proper English gentleman. It's a shame he's not interested in leadership, he could unite the government

malificent7 · 29/11/2018 22:28

I assune Mark Carney got hus job by being an astute financial expert. Why one would not listen to him is beyond me.
Yanbu...jrm is awful.

Talkinpeece · 29/11/2018 22:30

he could unite the government
against him maybe

StoneofDestiny · 29/11/2018 22:30

ManicUnicorn
He is playing a part - the part of Walter Softy from The Beano.

To believe a 2 minute hate for Jacob Rees Mogg is justified
malificent7 · 29/11/2018 22:38

Dickensian throwback , as someone mentioned earlier, is a fair description.
Isnt he a multi millionaire ? He will be fine whilst the rest of us suffer.

longwayoff · 29/11/2018 22:38

Atlas, do tell us more about those gentlemanly qualities that fit JRM for leadership. Other than being schooled at Eton and having a father who wrote the book on Disaster Capitalism -self explanatory- what particular skills would he bring?

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AtlasShrugged · 29/11/2018 22:44

Other than being schooled at Eton and having a father who wrote the book on Disaster Capitalism -self explanatory- what particular skills would he bring? "The Sovereign Individual" was a seminal work. His father also edited the Times.

His unflappability, which means he's always in control, and his superb knowledge of the financial sector, Britain's most important industry.

moredoll · 29/11/2018 22:50

YABVU

2 minutes is not nearly long enough.

StoneofDestiny · 29/11/2018 22:59

Atlas
He is an unprincipled religious fundamentalist opportunist. His fathers' 'achievements' are irrelevant - it's him slithering around for power. He is extremely rich, but has no care whatsoever for those who are not. Like many of his fellow Tory Etonians, he is hell bent on meddling with the economy to the advantage of the very rich, and likewise, dragging us out of Europe to achieve the same.

BertrandRussell · 29/11/2018 23:53

His appearance and mannerisms are the perfect smoke screen. While people are distracted by laughing and/or being disgusted by the externals he is quietly working to be Pune Minuster of the most repressive, socially backward administration in living memory. So carry on laughing at him and ridiculing him- you're playing right into his hands.

BarbarianMum · 30/11/2018 09:08

If we vote for him Betrand then, quite frankly, we deserve him. This is how I feel about Trump also. With democracy comes responsibility and I think weve all gotten a bit complacent.

BertrandRussell · 30/11/2018 09:34

As someone said-democracy is the worst possible system-apart from all the others

derxa · 30/11/2018 09:39

I voted remain and would still rather we stayed in but the sneering and down nose looking at others that don't think the same as you or aren't being listened to, is partly the reason Brexit and Trump have happened.
This x 100
JRM is a busted flush. He just looks even more ridiculous now than he did before. I don't know why you're giving more attention, OP.

Aquilla · 30/11/2018 09:55

I admire JRM and think he would be a fantastic PM.
I dislike socialists who pretend to love the poor but really just hate the rich.