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To think we need a congestion charge in every major city?

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impossiblecat · 27/11/2018 14:13

The traffic is getting insane.

It's dangerous and bad for everyone's health.

With the exception of the disabled and people who live within the limits of said congestion zone, obviously.

I'd have all money raised ploughed into public transport.

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Kazzyhoward · 30/11/2018 08:05

IMO not many people indulge in car journeys for no purpose

Yes, I think they do because they're lazy and can't organise themselves. The neighbour opposite us drives to the end of the road to the Spar shop - you can actually see it from her house - a 2 minute walk maximum. She often goes out first thing in the morning and comes back 5 minutes later with a bottle of milk. She can go out 2/3 times later in the day when she's making a meal - presumably just buying the ingredients she didn't plan for as she realises she hasn't got them. Funny thing is she's got a Greenpeace car sticker in her car! Hypocrites are bad enough, but lazy hypocrites are in a different league!

Booksandwine80 · 05/12/2018 13:10

YABU. What about my vulnerable clients who I have to drive and see for appointments at one end of the county and then another at the other end.

Who’s going to pay it for me?

masterandmargarita · 05/12/2018 13:28

Surely it would be added to your costs as it is in london

DGRossetti · 07/12/2018 16:19

www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/luxembourg-free-trains-public-transport-trams-buses-when-a8668496.html

independent.co.uk
Luxembourg to become first country in world to make public transport free
Simon Calder Travel Correspondent
6-8 minutes

While rail travellers in Britain prepare for tickets to cost 3.1 per cent more in 2019, Luxembourg is set to become the first country in the world to abolish all fares on public transport.

A new coalition government is taking office in the Grand Duchy with the promise of abolishing tickets on trains, trams and buses next summer.

At present fares are capped at a low level: €2 for up to two hours of travel, which in the small nation covers almost any journey.

Luxembourg’s area is 999 square miles, almost the same as Oxfordshire.

Anyone who wants to include first-class rail pays €3. An all-day second-class ticket on every form of public transport costs €4.

Young people travel free, and many commuters qualify for an annual “mPass” which costs €150 for all public transport.

Luxembourg’s transport system costs close to €1bn per year to operate. But partly as a result of the concessionary offers, fares amount to only €30m annually.

From summer 2019, tickets are set to be abolished. Part of the cost will be covered by removing a tax break for commuters.

The move will save on the collection and processing of fares. It may also encourage a shift away from private cars; traffic congestion, especially around Luxembourg City, is a serious problem.

Some city centres around the world offer free transport in a bid to reduce congestion, and in some US counties the bus system is free. But no other nation has eliminated fares from its entire transport network.

Not every commuter is convinced about the idea. Claude Moyen, a teacher who travels by train to his school in the town of Diekirch every day, said he feared the quality of journeys might suffer, and added: “I’m not sure if making public transport free here in Luxembourg will take more people out of their cars.”

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If the idea is deemed a success, neighbouring France may start to remove “peppercorn” fares from some bus services. At present passengers can travel for many miles to and from cities such as Nice and Perpignan for a flat fare of just €1.

One issue still to be considered in Luxembourg is the likelihood that homeless people may shrewdly decide to move from the streets to the trains in winter, in order to stay warm while they travel the nation.

In addition, no decision has been taken on how to handle the present demarcation between first and second class compartments on the trains.

The coalition of the centrist Democratic Party, the left-wing Socialist Workers’ Party and the Greens is led by premier-designate Xavier Bettel. It is known as the “Gambia coalition” because the parties’ colours are blue, red and green respectively – which together are the colours of the Gambian flag.

The new government is also aiming to legalisE cannabis, and to introduce two new public holidays – including one on 9 May, “Europe Day”.

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