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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

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QueenofmyPrinces · 15/01/2019 13:15

itstimetoscream - I do understand that but what you are doing are the actions of a parent to make sure things are equal between all your children.

What my mom is doing is treating one set of grandchildren differently and making things very unequal.

I don’t know if my perceptions are skewed though, maybe I’m looking for things that are, maybe her intentions to my nieces are completely honourable but that doesn’t make me feel any better. I honestly feel like I can’t make sense of anything anymore Sad

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Mix56 · 15/01/2019 13:19

She seems to be hell bent on destroying your relationship. Apparently she still is determined your ds & kids need saving.
Actually she is unhinged, & totally out of order pushing her favoritism to the next generation
I don't think your Dad has any control who she saves up for, (maybe he could match it & have pot for your dc)

RandomMess · 15/01/2019 13:52

Let's face it if she came to you and said I have been saving for DN as they don't seem to stand a chance of getting any future financial support, I am saving for your DC but only a token amount but if things change I will of course address it because I do want them treated fairly. Would that make you feel differently?

But as is clear it not about money they support you less in every way and gone about it sneakily and nastily to divide and conquer so your Mum is the one in control...

It's so painful when you witness a sibling get more support constantly and when you ask get told you're wrong or it's justified and your feelings completely ignored.

Thanks
QueenofmyPrinces · 15/01/2019 14:36

I find it more annoying that she’s done it to imply that because my sister and their father have broken up it means they’re going to financially deprived. He pays abovr the “required amount” of maintenance and he pays out a lot for extras on top of his payments too. He’s got a good income, he doesn’t let the children go without and he’s an active figure in their life so why my mom is implying my nieces are at such a disadvantage I don’t really know.

My mom seems to be acting as though he’s some dead beat dad, who doesn’t have a job, who doesn’t pay maintenance and who doesn’t see the children and I have no idea why.

The whole things is just bizarre.

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Chamomileteaplease · 15/01/2019 14:36

I have only skimmed the last bit but regarding your mum helping out your sister's children with savings accounts, isn't this the perfect opportunity for your mum to start doing the right thing?

She could put money in savings accounts for all her grandchildren. Start treating people equally for the first time.

Your sister could surely ask her to do this? Even if it means less for her own children.

Let's face it, there's not many families these days who wouldn't be pleased for a bit of help with expensive things like driving lessons and university.

ContessaIsOnADietDammit · 15/01/2019 14:57

My mom seems to be acting as though he’s some dead beat dad, who doesn’t have a job, who doesn’t pay maintenance and who doesn’t see the children and I have no idea why.

The truth doesn't fit her need to be the saviour.

I bet that if your sister met someone else, married them and was loaded and secure for life, your mum would be internally furious. In fact I wonder if she'd tacitly discourage your sister from getting too serious with anyone else, for that reason. I'm being a bit speculative there though.

RandomMess · 15/01/2019 15:25

I forgot he wasn't a dead beat Dad...

Have you actually asked your sister that question?

It does suit your Mum but I also wonder if it's the guilt of her own divorce?

It is your Mum being divisive though, it's unhinged and unkind.

cstaff · 15/01/2019 15:33

OP I have just read the whole thread. It does appear as though it is a whole power thing with your mum. Play one daughter off against the other but when this stops working for her she just throws her toys out of the pram.

With regard to your mum setting up accounts for your nieces - whilst I don't agree with it for obvious reasons, maybe let her go ahead and do it. At least that way someone will benefit from her. Maybe seeing as you and your sister are so close your sister will ever agree to split the money between all of your children. Not ideal I know but who knows.

FilthyforFirth · 15/01/2019 15:36

I would speak to your sister and see if she would split the money between all the grandkids?

But yes, sadly I think the time has come to go no contact. I could not tolerate my children being treated this way.

QueenofmyPrinces · 15/01/2019 15:53

My sister doesn’t have the money so there’s nothing to split if you know what I mean - it’s all just sitting in an account of my moms.

I feel even more annoyed because my mom gives them money quite frequently, she gives them both the odd £10 here and there, money as rewards for test results, little gifts for them etc whilst my eldest child got nothing (my youngest isn’t old enough to receive money or gifts) but I just let it go. But now to find out that on top of doing that she is also keeping money aside for them, well it just feels like another kick in the teeth.

Maybe she sees little point in saving money for or spending money on my children as they are so much younger than my nieces, I don’t know. Maybe when my children reach the same ages as my nieces my mom may do the same for them?

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cstaff · 15/01/2019 16:26

Not perfect I know but at least now you have your sister on your side. Also you can see things more from her perspective as well as her from yours. This means that your Mother doesn't have the same ammunition that she used to have to hold against the two of you.

And if your mum doesn't see the need to treat her grand kids equally whilst that is her choice (obviously not a very fair one) at least now you know it is coming from her and not your sister.

How would your sister cope without any financial help from your parents. If she could, it would definitely improve things between you two and make it easier for you both to go low contact (not necessarily no contact). Whilst your mother has obviously treated you both very unfairly in different ways whether financially or emotionally, I don't think she was deliberately being a bad person so maybe if she ever comes around to your way of thinking you might be able to get back on a level par with her. This will definitely be a long slow process after 20 years of unfairness in many ways.

It really is a tough call OP.

AcrossthePond55 · 15/01/2019 17:00

I agree with speaking to your Dad. I guess to tell him that if there are any more 'secrets', they need to come out before you find out elsewhere. Although if he's concerned about your sister's 'confidentiality', do you think it might help if DSis was there to assure him that he has her permission to 'reveal all'?

I agree with PP. Bailing out your 'poor DSis' fits her narrative. I don't think anything you or DSis do or say will stop her trying.

As far as the savings, unfortunately neither you nor DSis can make her stop (even if you wanted to), and you can't make her do likewise for your DC. All you could possibly do is let her know that the inequality will affect her relationship with her grandchildren when they find out. And that you will NOT be hiding secrets nor making excuses to your DC for why their Gran didn't do likewise for them.

Tistheseason17 · 15/01/2019 17:56

She is vile.
Your situation can change at any point in the future.
She's not been saving for them. She's saying it to cause trouble.
If she'd really saved for them she would have set up separate accounts and you can bet she would have been shouting it from the roof tops before now This is a hurtful aftershock.

Manipulation of the highest form.
Personally, this would be the tipping point for NC with your DM. Your sister would be foolish to believe this and not see it for what it is.

RandomMess · 15/01/2019 18:13

Ask you DSIS how she would feel if there was nothing saved for her DC and your Dad has a savings account for yours...

Would she feel your DC were favoured and what would she want done about it?

QueenofmyPrinces · 15/01/2019 20:28

I spoke to my dad and he said he had no idea about these savings for my nieces. He actually said that if he were me or my sister he wouldn’t believe unless he saw the proof.

My dad has said he’s so disappointed in how my mom is behaving. He said that he, me and my sister have all managed to move on so has no idea why she’s continuing to behave so badly.

He has tried to talk to her and reason with her but she’s basically told him she’s not interested in what he has to say. I think she thought she had an ally in my dad (hence why she bought him to the meal) and she’s angry that it isn’t the case.

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7yo7yo · 15/01/2019 22:30

Nasty bitch.
Any of the flying monkeys been in touch op?
I think you need to find your anger now.

Tistheseason17 · 15/01/2019 22:50

Sorry, OP. Just as I suspected. Hope your DSis sees through it too.

AcrossthePond55 · 16/01/2019 00:06

He said that he, me and my sister have all managed to move on so has no idea why she’s continuing to behave so badly

Because this has changed the narrative. And because she is no longer in control and can no longer feel superior to 'poor DSis'.

RandomMess · 16/01/2019 07:58

Quite simply she no longer has power over the 3 of you plus her parents and everyone else she has included in the narrative of DSIS and her as saintly Mum, Ex-wife, daughter...

QueenofmyPrinces · 16/01/2019 08:23

Much sister sent me numerous screen shots this morning of my moms internet banking page, which my mom had sent to my sister...

It clearly shows a side account which is titled “For (niece’s names) with deposits (transfers from her main account) from as far back as 4 years ago.

My sister had challenged her on it, said she thought it was all made up and just another way of my mom manipulating the situation and so my mom sent her the proof.

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RandomMess · 16/01/2019 08:25

Interesting that your mom set them up after you had DC...

Mix56 · 16/01/2019 08:29

There's no hope for you & your Mother now Queen.
The only way to stop this hurt is to stop all communications with her.
Stop trying to stick plasters on & holding up the white flag.
She is not going to back track.
She has shown you who she is, unfortunately you can only believe it.

ContessaIsOnADietDammit · 16/01/2019 08:35

I think all you can do is stick to the mantra that your DM's money is hers to do with as she pleases. That doesn't mean you can't feel hurt about it; I certainly would be. The disparity is just so glaring.

I was wondering about your mother. Mine used to insist on paying for things as a form of control, but also because (I suspect) she felt that we didn't need her for anything else. She had so little confidence that we'd love her even without the money, yet she would often be a complete bitch about said money (insisting we took it whilst simultaneously berating us for only loving her for the handouts). Ironically, if she'd just taken the time to show an interest and chat occasionally then we'd have all been far happier. But she didn't think we'd love her without the money, that was for certain. I wonder if your mother has a similar inner dread with your sister. Since she started out with the 'Oh Queen will be fine' narrative, it may not have occured to her to feel the same with you.

CraftyYankee · 16/01/2019 09:03

Sorry to say this but your mother seems to actively dislike you. I would guess that she is jealous of you. Successful marriage, competent parent who didn't abandon her kids, career. You are what she wishes she had been. So she punishes you for her failings.

Your sister also has a failed marriage and low career prospects, so your mother can feel superior and needed with her.

Regardless the healthiest path forward for you is either no contact, or low contact/grey rock if you don't want to rock the boat to NC extent. Separate yourself from her mentally. Flowers

Mix56 · 16/01/2019 09:18

This has been hoing on for Queens whole life though

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