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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

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Vivaldi1678 · 04/01/2019 12:17

I think your mother is misguided, but I don't think she will ever see it that way. She genuinely believes that she has done her best for her family and that you are jealous and unreasonable. You probably need to be pragmatic, for your own peace of mind, so try to let things go - not easy I know - and be pleased that your relationship with your sister has improved. If you strive for what is not achievable you could end up with nothing. Sometimes, we just have to accept that things will never be as we wish or feel that we deserve.

Babyblade · 04/01/2019 12:22

Oh jeez - I'm so sorry to hear that it's snowballed OP Sad

I don't have any good advice - I can only offer my full sympathy Flowers

Carry on as calm as you can, vent here or with your DH. Showing your anger will only allow her to apply her jealous narrative to you, which is neither correct or fair. It sounds as if your DF "gets" it - that's a positive. Work on that and your relationship with your Sister. x

CraftyYankee · 04/01/2019 13:16

Therapy to process your mum's behavior could be helpful.

ContessaIsOnADietDammit · 04/01/2019 13:33

I agree with the calm approach - on no account be angry to family. Go for broke on here. I also agree with Crafty re therapy being helpful, but you should expect to feel worse before you feel better (sorry).

subspace · 04/01/2019 17:05

You're allowed to feel rage and anger. Vent here as much as you like xx

QueenofmyPrinces · 04/01/2019 18:00

I’m starting to wish I had kept my mouth shut and that my mom’s probably right, I have bought all this on myself. I wish I could just turn back the clock on all of it Sad

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woollyheart · 04/01/2019 18:19

If you hadn't mentioned it, you would be back where you were, resenting your sister for taking your money and taking your parents' money too.

It wasn't viable to keep things like that secret for ever. It was putting you and your sister in a very difficult position.

At least you and your sister can stop this causing bad feelings between you in future.

DitzyPrints · 04/01/2019 18:33

You did the right thing op- you are not the one in the wrong here please remember yhat

DitzyPrints · 04/01/2019 18:33

That

Bobbybear10 · 04/01/2019 18:46

It sounds like it is now time for your DS and Dad to step up an tell the truth of the situation to your extended family, tbh they owe you at least that!

Can you ask them to intervene on your behalf with the rest of the family?
Tbh I think it’s piss poor of your sister (I’m not sure you can expect much better from your dad) to not jump to your defence and tell everyone the truth either by phone, online or in person.

I think your mother is clearly being a horrible person but I can sort of see why she might feel that she is the bad guy, the fact your sister knew she was getting more than you but carried on anyway. She knew that you were not being treated equally but rather than stand up and say ‘no this isn’t right and I won’t let this happen to my sisters and my relationship’ she only saw how it would benefit her, and your father behaved in the exact same way as your mother at the time. They would’ve discussed it at length but he decided it was ok. You have ‘forgiven’ them both as they said sorry and seemed remorseful yet they haven’t actually done anything productive to make amends and have left you in a even worse state with your family rather than step up and try to make things right.
I want to make it clear I think your mother is behaving appalling, but I’m not sure your a Dad and Sister are much better.

Tistheseason17 · 04/01/2019 19:39

No need to consider turning back time.
The person bringing it on themselves is your (D)M.
You and your DS and your DDad will be fine. No need to feel guilt about her reaction. She chooses to behave like this and you need to feel good about the choices you have made. You haven't done anything wrong.

Boswellox · 04/01/2019 19:49

I remember Denise Robertson saying that a parent can tend to "favour" the child they perceive as the weakest..

NC0301191141 · 04/01/2019 20:02

Oh Queen, try not to feel so down. Imagine if you hadn't said anything. This would have been festering and eating away at your more and more and would eventually have come out anyway.

Your mum clearly has a lot of issues in her past and it's not fair that those are impacting your and your sisters lives too.

I totally understand your sentiment but at the end of the day your mum is still the same person she was 3 months ago. She hasn't changed. What has changed is the way you see her and you now see the real her. That's not your fault. It's hers.

I wanted to cry at your DF and DS updates. It was clear how much it had cleared the air between you all.

Sometimes there is just no helping some people but hopefully time will be a healer for your mum.

Much love and Ginfor you tonight.

QueenofmyPrinces · 04/01/2019 20:35

Thank you everyone, it helps to be able to vent on here and have your support and understanding.

I spoke to my sister earlier and asked if our grandad had spoken to her and she said, “No, why?” so he obviously prepres his speech just for me. I don’t understand why my mum is trying to victimise me when my sister feels the same as I do about it all? Why is she just telling tales on me? Is she trying to cause a further family divide? I just don’t get it. Yet again it feels like my sister can do no wrong and I’m the black sheep.

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Sharpcattlegridheavyhat · 04/01/2019 21:47

But for a while there it was you being peacemaker and your mum was angrier at your sister, not you. It’s weird that she’s reverted back to blaming you again. Is it because of the lunch? Has your sister reached out to her, do they have a relationship again?

It’s all so hurtful for you. Especially dealing with someone who never admits they’re wrong. For your own health, it sounds like you need to keep her out of your daily life. Can you hold her at arms length? Christmas cards, emails, just maintaining contact whilst not allowing her to hurt you?

QueenofmyPrinces · 05/01/2019 10:10

It sounds like it is now time for your DS and Dad to step up an tell the truth of the situation to your extended family, tbh they owe you at least that! Can you ask them to intervene on your behalf with the rest of the family? Tbh I think it’s piss poor of your sister (I’m not sure you can expect much better from your dad) to not jump to your defence and tell everyone the truth either by phone, online or in person

I haven’t told my sister what my Grandad said to me, I don’t know. I told her he’d given me a “talking to” but I didn’t say what about. It only occurred to me last night that maybe by grandparents knew all along that my sister was getting that money and they were just some more people in on the secret. I can’t imagine my mom would pour her heart out to her dad about what’s happening unless he already knew about the money.

I want to ask my sister if they knew but I’m too nervous to hear the answer. Despite my mom not having a close relationship with her parents I’ve always felt close to them, speak to them on the phone all the time, visit them once a week etc so I will be really hurt if they were in on it too.

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RandomMess · 05/01/2019 10:26

I would just tell the flying monkeys "it's not about the £ it's about us both being allocated different roles by Mum and they have made us both unhappy. We are stepping away from what Mum wants and she's having a tantrum"

Mix56 · 05/01/2019 12:57

Random is right. or, Silence is golden.
Your Mum is trying to justify herself in all this calling in all the flying monkeys.
Wishing you could go back in time wouldn't be better, in reality in spite of your Mother going off into a narcissistic nose dive, it has cleared the air for both you & your sis. & helped understand a lifetime of confusion

subspace · 05/01/2019 14:30

It's to be expected that she's backlashing now, sadly. Most people like others to stay on the boxes they expect them to be in (and they can be boxes you know about and agree with, or ones they think you are in and you have no idea they think that). You're both threatening her worldview by not staying in your boxes. She's (probably without any awareness of doing this at all) trying to restore status quo.

You have done nothing wrong. Please do remember that. It sounds like you're adjusting to realising she isn't in the box you thought she was in, either.

Hugs xx

AcrossthePond55 · 05/01/2019 14:49

I think I'd go more with 'Silence is golden'. I'd withdraw from the family for awhile and if anyone tried to speak to me I'd say "This is between Mum, DSis, and me. I'm not going to air this in the family. Mum knows where I am when she wants to talk".

And I don't think I'd ask DSis about whether or not Grandad knew or tell her the specifics of what he said to you. It isn't going to change anything one way or the other. You and DSis have settled this between you and things are going well. No point in asking more questions of her now.

comingintomyown · 05/01/2019 19:48

Just wanted to say how impressive you sound OP and whilst it might feel very uncomfortable now I think it will be massively beneficial to you in the long run to have dealt with this

My bro and I are treated totally differently to our two half siblings from my Dads second marriage and it’s quite extraordinary how a man of his intelligence doesn’t seem to think there anything wrong with this. I’m into my 50s now and wish I had said something when I had more fire in my belly about it and now that time has passed. I am at mostly peace with it but wonder if I would have a better relationship with my Dad if I’d spoken out.

QueenofmyPrinces · 05/01/2019 20:27

Sorry you’ve had to deal with unfairness too coming - its awful isn’t it.

I saw my sister earlier and I told her what our grandad had said and I asked her if they had known about the £200. I had to ask because I needed to know the truth, I need to know that everything is being laid bare and there are no more secrets. Repairing my relationship with my sister is the most important factor to me so I need to know that she is being totally honest with otherwise how can we truly move on?

There was an awkward pause before she told me that they had known but I was glad of her honesty. At least I know she’s not going to lie to me even if the truth has the potential to make things worse.

I asked her how they had come to know about it and she said our mom had simply told them when she first put the idea forward to my dad. I’m guessing she was trying to impress them with her selfless act. My sister did say that our grandparents have never said anything to her about it, it was never spoken about, but yes they did know about it.

I can’t say I was particularly surprised to be honest but I am disappointed. It feels like all the people I thought I could trust, everyone I felt close to has betrayed me although I know that’s quite an extreme thing to say.

It’s all such a mess.

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BloodyBing · 05/01/2019 23:01

I don't really know what to say but you're handling this really well.

I'm glad your sister is telling you the truth and that is the "good" bit to come out of this crap situation. Flowers

Tistheseason17 · 06/01/2019 13:35

Your GPs knwoing should not change your relationship with your sister - she has been honest. But, I would question the relationship with the GP. Sorry - this is awful and having been brought up as the unfavoured child by my mum, I know how shit it feels. We have been NC for years and honestly, it does feel better than being on eggshells around her all the time. Worth considering.

ContessaIsOnADietDammit · 06/01/2019 14:48

It's just occurred to me that your sister is probably now mulling over the fact that everyone in the family was aware of her status as the charity case who needs all the help she can get because she's so useless. How utterly shitty for her Sad and what poor form from your mum for propagating that line. She needs some proper therapy for her own childhood horrors, this should never have been brought forward to your generation.

You haven't done anything wrong, op.

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